I Take My Hat Off To Pat Russell

[PEBBLES!]

Yes, he should have said "ooops, my bad". Bradley was clearly knocked down. Why else was he doing the Berbick?

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Just because Bradley did his best Trevor Berbick impression doesn't mean it was knock down.

A "Knock down" is just that, to be "knocked down" directly from a punch.

Whilst Bradley was hurt by a punch, him falling to the canvass wasn't necessarily caused directly from the punch. Despite the fact he was rolling around on the canvas momentarily.

He was hit hurt, but stayed up, held on, then he was leant on by Ruslan to be caused to go down.

Now, you could argue that he was already falling. You could also argue he did it purposely which would have been smart on his part if that was the case.

It is certainly up for debate.

One thing's for sure, in my mind, and that is it wasn't a "Clear KD"

man, you guys are some simple-minded fucks.

have you ever been hurt at all? you can conceivably keep your feet and continue an activity even while on weak legs. if someone pushes you down when you are in that state, you will stumble when you go to stand, especially if you get up as quickly as Tim did.

that his legs were weak from having eaten a couple big punches does not necessarily support that he was knocked down.

If I punch someone in the face and they're out of their feet, then I push them over they're going to have a hard time standing up. The fact that they have a difficult time standing up would knock act as proof that my punch caused the knockdown.

[!! Shawn]

yup. dipped low in a circular, rolling evasive motion after the left hook caught him, was in the process of bringing his upper-body back upright when his head made contact with Provodnikov's lower body and he was then leaned on.

certain people will refuse to acknowledge that it happened, though. apparently he just crumpled.

Its really clear as day, and it happens in lots of fights, and now just because Bradley was hurt, its a knockdown.

Bradley being hurt is irrelevant. He was pushed down. It doesn't matter if he would have gone done from the next punch, or not, or if he would have gone down on his own. He was pushed down.

[brickcityboxing]

yup. dipped low in a circular, rolling evasive motion after the left hook caught him, was in the process of bringing his upper-body back upright when his head made contact with Provodnikov's lower body and he was then leaned on.

certain people will refuse to acknowledge that it happened, though. apparently he just crumpled.

That's exactly what it looked like at first glance like he got caught hard and was trying to avoid another one. People just wanna argue the fact that he was hurt so regardless of wether or not he got pushed it doesn't matter count the kd. Somebody should've told maidana that he could've just leg swept khan. And got credited a kd.

[Malius]

Its really clear as day, and it happens in lots of fights, and now just because Bradley was hurt, its a knockdown.

Bradley being hurt is irrelevant. He was pushed down. It doesn't matter if he would have gone done from the next punch, or not, or if he would have gone down on his own. He was pushed down.

When Pac and Mayweather retire they will create a coalition to hate on everything Bradley does.

[PEBBLES!]

That's exactly what it looked like at first glance like he got caught hard and was trying to avoid another one. People just wanna argue the fact that he was hurt so regardless of wether or not he got pushed it doesn't matter count the kd. Somebody should've told maidana that he could've just leg swept khan. And got credited a kd.

a drink is on me next time i land up in newark liberty international, friend.


enjoy the rest of your evenings, gents (and ladies).

[brickcityboxing]

a drink is on me next time i land up in newark liberty international, friend.


enjoy the rest of your evenings, gents (and ladies).

Gladly appreciated.

[HeroBando]

Its really clear as day, and it happens in lots of fights, and now just because Bradley was hurt, its a knockdown.

Bradley being hurt is irrelevant. He was pushed down. It doesn't matter if he would have gone done from the next punch, or not, or if he would have gone down on his own. He was pushed down.

If you go down from minor contact 3 seconds after taking a punch that separates you from your senses, that's a delayed reaction KD, by definition. The guy couldn't even stand up, and after rising on 2nd try, he needed the ropes to prop him up.

[BafanaBafana]

Oh I bet you do....

He basically gave Bradley the fight. Even when the Russian had TKO'd him in the first round.

And don't forget the sixth when Bradley sat on the bottom rope, that was a clear knockdown.

[Lenin Castillo]

He had the opportunity to pull another Richard Steele and stop the fight with less than 2 seconds left or so. Thank God history didn't repeat itself, even though the opportunity was there.

Like many great fighters before him (i.e. Mayweather, Wlad, Tyson Jones, etc), Bradley was in a war with a fighter he was the favorite against. My hat off to Bradley, but more importantly, my hats off to Russell for knowing the situation, time, etc and not pulling some punk ass Richard Steele crap and stopping it with a second or two left in the fight.

That's all.

I'm sorry but do people on this site even read the thread starter post before replying?

What wars did Wladimir and Roy Jones ever went to and emerge victorious?

Tarver I was hardly a war.. What war did Wladimir ever go into and emerge victorious? Sanders was a war and Purrity was a war.. he end up semi comatose from both.

Tyson went to 'war' 4 times that I can recall. Douglas-Ruddock Ruddock Holyfield.. He got knocked out in 2 of the four 'wars'.

Wlad vs Peters was not a war. That was just a cautious super heavy weight falling over non stop from rabbit punches and clinching the rest of the way to a UD. I'm sorry.. I can't get over how you used those fighters as an example to show why the ref was good.

Matthrew Saad Muhammad vs Lopez II etc.
Holmes-Norton Last round etc.
Foreman- Lyle..

those 3 fights are much better examples. I mean Jesus Christ how the hell do you use Roy and Wladimir and Tyson as examples of 'going to war'

Jesus . Christ.
I know this is a small thing but how the hell can you be a boxing fan and use those examples?

[!! Shawn]

If you go down from minor contact 3 seconds after taking a punch that separates you from your senses, that's a delayed reaction KD, by definition. The guy couldn't even stand up, and after rising on 2nd try, he needed the ropes to prop him up.

Point me to delayed reaction knockdown in the rule book please. Like it or not he was pushed down.