How controversial was Calazaghe's split decision win over Hopkins?

[Exciterx30]

Well, my opinion is worth as much as the next guy's, but I thought Calzaghe won this one. Incidentally, I rewatched and scored this one like three days ago and my score was 115-112 Calzaghe.

I agree that it was not as decisive a win, like Joe's victory over Jones, but I feel that Calzaghe took most of the rounds with activity and fast combinations, although Hopkins landed the harder shots. All in all, 8 to 4 for Joe.

[DanboSmitty]

I scored it for B-hop, but I could see how some could score it the other way, it seemed like a close fight. Watching it again it seemed more clear cut for Hopkins when you considered how punches you thought Clazaghe landed the first time really didn`t.

[marvin douglas]

Well, my opinion is worth as much as the next guy's, but I thought Calzaghe won this one. Incidentally, I rewatched and scored this one like three days ago and my score was 115-115 Calzaghe.

I agree that it was not as decisive a win, like Joe's victory over Jones, but I feel that Calzaghe took most of the rounds with activity and fast combinations, although Hopkins landed the harder shots. All in all, 8 to 4 for Joe.

115-115 for Calzaghe?

[I Love Jesus!]

It doesn't seem like that was as clear a loss for B-Hop as the second Chad Dawson fight, for example.

Hopkins should have won. Calzaghe didn't land 1 decent punch the whole fight plus he got dropped. All he did was slap. I think even his dad thought he lost.

[A-Wolf]

but does this apply to every round or the fight as a whole?hopkins did not land meaningful shots in every round yes he was the one landing the cleaner punches in the fight but they were few and far apart and as the fight went on the worst hopkins was starting to look

Not exactly. Somebody actually took the time to make a scientific study of it back in 2008. Here is the intro. Let me know if you want me to post the round by round or paste some of the content into Google and you'll find it..

Below you will find a comprehensive punch-by-punch accounting of the fight that took place between Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe earlier this year. These are the scoring punches. Here are some interesting aspects of what was found:


- Calzaghe's best punch was the right hook to the head. He landed this punch to good effect at different points throughout the fight. His single best right hook came with 13 seconds remaining in the 3rd round. It was a very hard, fast, crashing shot. See if you can catch it. You'll need to watch at 1/8th or 1/16th speed.

- Calzaghe has been accused with great regularity of "landing no punches" in this fight. Not true. He landed over 50 scoring shots. Now, granted most of these scoring punches had almost nothing on them. They were extremely light shots designed to make contact with the target, but were impressive in a way. Calzaghe showed great focus and determination in his body language and face as he touched Hopkins up with alot of these. When you slow it down you can see the boxer, and not the wild man that most fans went away believing they had witnessed.

- Hopkins outscored Calzaghe by a fairly wide margin in terms of rounds, as well as total tally for all individual scoring punches landed overall. Hopkins of course also landed the significantly harder punches, so there were quite a few instances where they were exchanging and Calzaghe would land a glancing shot, and Hopkins would land and knock Calzaghe backward, redden his face with shock, and/or double him over from the force of his punches.


TOTAL PUNCHES LANDED

HOPKINS - 68
CALZAGHE - 56

TOTAL JABS LANDED

HOPKINS - 5
CALZAGHE - 11

TOTAL POWERPUNCHES LANDED

HOPKINS - 63
CALZAGHE - 45

ROUNDS WON ON PURE SCORING

HOPKINS - 9
CALZAGHE - 3

KNOCKDOWNS

HOPKINS - 1
CALZAGHE - 0

[I Love Jesus!]

That fight has to be crappiest sporting event that has ever prompted this much discussion.

If Calzaghe had dropped that decision we wouldn't be hearing anything about it.

good point and it's because it would have been the correct decision.

The only reason it comes up at all is because calslappies desperate fans bring it up every time Hopkins breaks a record. They're like "so this makes Calzaghe good right guys" and everyone's like NO, Calslappy is still g@y......

[A-Wolf]

Hopkins should have won. Calzaghe didn't land 1 decent punch the whole fight plus he got dropped. All he did was slap. I think even his dad thought he lost.

Listen to this video closely.. even Enzo told Calzaghe that he had to stop him in the 12th round.. enzo had Hopkins winning too so all the people who say joe won are basically calling his father a liar..



I think we can safely say now that hopkins won that fight when calzaghes own father indirectly admits it.

Case closed.

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[I Love Jesus!]

Close fight, no robbery. I remember watching it, thinking, "Hopkins isn't going to win this fight."

He clearly landed the cleaner shots[/B], but just got out worked. And people can say what they want, but Calzaghe had Hopkins uncomfortable in there.

When did that happen? Did these alleged cleaner shots happen to look like this?

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[mconstantine]

I will say this...

Boxing is called the hurt business, not the "see who can throw the most punches" business. I think it's crazy that so many judges and fans are tricked into thinking high punch output counts for something. It counts for NOTHING until the punches land.

2/4 Clean punches trumps 3/40 Grazing or soft punches all day any day.

Now ring generalship, defense and effective aggression must also be factored, but clean punches should be the most vital criteria IMO.

[Guest]

I thought Hop was unlucky, but at the end of the day he took 58 days off pretending a body slap was a low slap, and while he did so, Calzaghe pretended to sodomise him in front of millions.

End of story.