How controversial was Calazaghe's split decision win over Hopkins?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    It doesn't seem like that was as clear a loss for B-Hop as the second Chad Dawson fight, for example.
    i thought bhop won but it wasnt a robbery or anything like that.

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    • UTEP
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      #12



      Sorry B-hop, a white boy beat you.

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      • A-Wolf
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        #13
        Originally posted by johnm is...
        Close fight, no robbery. I remember watching it, thinking, "Hopkins isn't going to win this fight."

        He clearly landed the cleaner shots, but just got out worked. And people can say what they want, but Calzaghe had Hopkins uncomfortable in there.
        Plenty of people have made Hopkins "uncomfortable" over the years if that's what you want to call it. Bernard had been plagued by overselectiveness and excessive waiting on many ocassions prior to the Calzaghe fight. Hopkins, if you know anything about his career overall was pulling a "Hopkins" that night. He was flopping and all that crap.

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        • -Kev-
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          #14
          I remember at the end of the fight, before the scorecards thinking Hopkins lost the fight. I was rooting for him, and thought he was going to win, but he did not win in my eyes. But that is just how I felt, I did not score the fight and I haven't gone back to score it. I have not "rewatched" that fight, but I should and when I do, I know i'll probably have it really really close for either guy.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #15
            Originally posted by A-Wolf
            ESPN, BBC Sport, Yahoo Sports and the Associated Press all had Hopkins winning. How controversial is this match and it's outcome? Without any question it's the most debated most controversial match of the current era.
            Thank you, that's exactly the type of straight answer I was looking for.

            Didn't know that BBC Sport scored it for Hopkins. That's very interesting.

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            • Ray Corso
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              #16
              If Calzaghe could punch at all there'd be no doubt about it!! Against Bernard you have to out punch him even if your not landing at a high rate you must out work him. The guy does nothing to win except counter walk and counter punch and not let his opponents "get off"! Thats what he does and if this kid Cloud had the juice to really want the fight he could have beaten him. He had the punches to do it too! Bernard might make a good cornerman for motivation. He's a great liar! Ray.

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              • wizard king
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                #17
                It was a racial fight and it's the reason why bhop lost, when bhop said he wasn't going to be beat by a white boy it was over. No way slappy beat bhop it was competitive but bhop won clearly

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                  #18
                  lol we already got two race mongerers in here saying Calzaghe won. Says everything about this match. Bernard should have never made it racial. Quote from Roy Jones:

                  Journalist: "Did you feel that Calzaghe won the fight against Bernard Hopkins?"

                  Roy Jones Jr: "Well, if you tell people that 'ain't no White boy going to beat me' and there's a White judge(s), and it's that close - of course you lost. (laughter by room full of journalists.. As Jones continues..) I mean, for real right? You want the truth right?" (Jones matter of factly shrugs his shoulders)

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                  • Slyboots
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wizard king
                    It was a racial fight and it's the reason why bhop lost, when bhop said he wasn't going to be beat by a white boy it was over. No way slappy beat bhop it was competitive but bhop won clearly
                    So you think those remarks influenced the way the judges scored the fight?

                    judge: Ted Gimza 115-112 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 113-114 | judge: Chuck Giampa 116-111

                    Ted Gimza and Chuck Giampa are both white males who scored the fight greatly in favor of Calzaghe while Adalaide Byrd, a non white female married to a black male (referee Robert Byrd), scored it 1 point for B-Hop.

                    Maybe you have a point with the race thing.

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                    • wizard king
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Slyboots
                      So you think those remarks influenced the way the judges scored the fight?

                      judge: Ted Gimza 115-112 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 113-114 | judge: Chuck Giampa 116-111

                      Ted Gimza and Chuck Giampa are both white males who scored the fight greatly in favor of Calzaghe while Adalaide Byrd, a non white female married to a black male (referee Robert Byrd), scored it 1 point for B-Hop.

                      Maybe you have a point with the race thing.
                      It was racial fight weather you choose to accept it or not,you are white?

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