My thoughts on Manny Pacman right now.

[hectari]

Marg was still hell for any welter. Is it the bogus belt that did it? There's lots of bogus belts floating around. Mares won his 2nd belt at a CW against a guy tons less formidable than Marg. Has your opinion of him changed?

I think the reason why he lost respect for Pacman was because he accepted a fight with a cheater and gave him a big money fight reward instead of declining to fight him, Pacman basically fights who ever Arum puts in front of him.

I agree though that Margarito fight was hard as hell for Pacman, to me that is the fight that took a lot out of Pacman he took a beating just to give one back.

[Bushbaby]

I agree with you Bush

I thought Manny won the 1st and 2nd fights. The 3rd was the one he either lost, or drew. I hate to say either fight lost any of those 3 fights because they were tremendous shows of skill and determination from both fighters.

The Bradley thing is a blip. I can't hold that against him, he should have beat a pretty game p4p fighter in Bradley.

And ofc the KO. Either one was about to get knocked out, Manny got the short straw. Now you get posts on this site saying Broner would beat Manny, Thurman would beat Manny. When theres no proof saying he'd lose to anyone not named Marquez or Mayweather. Even then, Marquez 5 would be a toss up still, and noone will ever know how a Floyd/Pac fight would turn out.

It's just hate. Mayweather gets the same. I'm glad theres some people that can actually look past it

I didn't mention the Bradley fight cause most anyone with any sense knew Pacman won, it was a "blip" for real,lol!!

Hell I wish it were Pacman Broner came to 147 to fight. I'd love for the Pacman to bring that dude down to reality real quick. Could you imagine that guy (standing in front of Pacman), LOL!!

[HeroBando]

The one thing I agree with is at least he got KO by another great fighter, but his next fight he will get KO against by either Marquez or some young gun like Brandon Rios or an older vet like Humberto Soto who has the power to KO Manny as well.

Looks like i wasted time responding to your previous post

[Bermuda]

Needs to lose any remnants of the Bieber cut, return to drinking, ********, find some females, and we'll have The Mexicutioner back!

lol i think jimmy kimmel made a joke about that...

[HeroBando]

I think the reason why he lost respect for Pacman was because he accepted a fight with a cheater and gave him a big money fight reward instead of declining to fight him, Pacman basically fights who ever Arum puts in front of him.

I agree though that Margarito fight was hard as hell for Pacman, to me that is the fight that took a lot out of Pacman he took a beating just to give one back.

Cotto fought the same cheater. Well not the same, he had only one functional eye.

Morel was in prison for sexually assaulting a minor, I don't see how he's more deserving of a payday

[GrandpaBernard]

Marg was still hell for any welter. Is it the bogus belt that did it? There's lots of bogus belts floating around. Mares won his 2nd belt at a CW against a guy tons less formidable than Marg. Has your opinion of him changed?

manny waited for some real favorable circumstances to happen

*two fighters unranked at 154 fighting for a vacant belt at a catchweight

*picked margarito, who is nothing at 154, and just came off being destroyed by Shane Mosley and looking unimpressive in a easy tuneup

*Paul Williams at 154 was available at the time, but manny conveniently acted like he didn't exist

manny's marg and Mosley fights were jokes. He had every perceived advantage coming into the Marquez trilogy, still gets his @ss beat, and then robs a 40 year old underdog of his victory

The Bradley fight was legit except the part where manny got robbed

[hectari]

I didn't mention the Bradley fight cause most anyone with any sense knew Pacman won, it was a "blip" for real,lol!!

Hell I wish it were Pacman Broner came to 147 to fight. I'd love for the Pacman to bring that dude down to reality real quick. Could you imagine that guy (standing in front of Pacman), LOL!!

Broner would beat Pacquiao though, Pacman doesn't have that type of slick ducking head movement that Gavin Rees used, and Broner would just counter Pac with a hard uppercut, the way Broner dropped Rees is the same way he can drop Pacman, Ress flew the same way Pac flew down from the right hand of JMM in the early rounds.

Broner is also much bigger than Pacman, don't get it twisted just because he fights at 135 doesn't mean he is small, Pacman is the smallest welterweight in the game, even Marquez has gotten bigger than him, Marquez can last because he has longer arms and doesn't have to reach and can counter.

Pacman has T rex arms and has to leap and lung in to hit guys. Sorry to say but Broner will probably be the cash out fight for Manny, Arum will finally cash Pac out against Broner once Broner gets his PPV fight with PAulie and his 24/7, so his name will be known.

[hectari]

manny waited for some real favorable circumstances to happen

*two fighters unranked at 154 fighting for a vacant belt at a catchweight

*picked margarito, who is nothing at 154, and just came off being destroyed by Shane Mosley and looking unimpressive in a easy tuneup

*Paul Williams at 154 was available at the time, but manny conveniently acted like he didn't exist

manny's marg and Mosley fights were jokes. He had every perceived advantage coming into the Marquez trilogy, still gets his @ss beat, and then robs a 40 year old underdog of his victory

The Bradley fight was legit except the part where manny got robbed

^when I read this I heard an angry voice. You are a true Pac hater man.

Pac never has any advantage of Marquez, did you ***** when Floyd Mayweather called up marquez to catchweight and than failed to make weight? seems you only dislike Pacman and have a beef with him.

Why don't you criticize every fighter in the game who has fought at a catchweight or fight guys coming of unimpressive wins?

What do you think about Cotto beating Margarito after Pacman put it on him and shattered his eye socket?

What about Floyd beating on Pacmans left overs remember when Pac beat Cotto everyone said he was damaged by Margarito, even when Cotto went up to 154 the Pac haters said Pac could beat Cotto again at 154, Cotto is shot and they didn't want that rematch, all of a sudden Floyd fights Cotto, now this is the best Cotto yet? even though the Floyd fans said Cotto looked slow and bloated at 154? Now he is a better version of Cotto and this version of Cotto who gave Floyd his toughest fight according to Floyd himself would have destroyed Pacman?

This why I never listen to Flowmo or pac hating logic, they have none.

[HeroBando]

manny waited for some real favorable circumstances to happen

*two fighters unranked at 154 fighting for a vacant belt at a catchweight

*picked margarito, who is nothing at 154, and just came off being destroyed by Shane Mosley and looking unimpressive in a easy tuneup

*Paul Williams at 154 was available at the time, but manny conveniently acted like he didn't exist

manny's marg and Mosley fights were jokes. He had every perceived advantage coming into the Marquez trilogy, still gets his @ss beat, and then robs a 40 year old underdog of his victory

The Bradley fight was legit except the part where manny got robbed

Marg had already lost to Mosley by the time Pac moved up to welter, so it's not like he could have fought a much better version of him. But from what I saw fight night, Marg was far from shot.

Right, already conceded the "SWW" belt was a joke, hence the Mares Morel analogy. How's that one any better? Both unranked at 122, catchweight. It's worse since Morel is zero threat.

[hectari]

Marg had already lost to Mosley by the time Pac moved up to welter, so it's not like he could have fought a much better version of him. But from what I saw fight night, Marg was far from shot.

Right, already conceded the "SWW" belt was a joke, hence the Mares Morel analogy. How's that one any better? Both unranked at 122, catchweight. It's worse since Morel is zero threat.

Also Margarito said himself that Pacman gave him an advantage by allowing him to fight at a catch weight, Margo said when he fought Mosley he was so weak from the weight cut after ballooning in weight and partying after his win against Cotto.

The only thing I don't like is fighting for titles at catchweights.

Margo was far from shot I agree, he gave Pacman one hell of a fight and showed he has heart.

I think that Margo could even give Floyd a tougher fight, Floyd would have to get on his bike against an iron chin guy like Margo and it would gas him out and cause hiim to get hit, if Cotto could have trapped Floyd that way imagine Margarito over 12 rounds? Floyd's stamina only looks great because he rarely uses his legs or wastes shots, the pressure for Margo would have tested him.

I wish Margo never cheated though, his trainer is an idiot.