My thoughts on Manny Pacman right now.

[GrandpaBernard]

Pac never has any advantage of Marquez, did you ***** when Floyd Mayweather called up marquez to catchweight and than failed to make weight? seems you only dislike Pacman and have a beef with him.

Let's see Marquez suffered a schooling at his only 147 performance prior to the third fight with manny. manny who is a 140 pounder according to his handlers and fans decides to drag Marquez to 147.

Why don't you criticize every fighter in the game who has fought at a catchweight or fight guys coming of unimpressive wins?

This thread is about manny.

What do you think about Cotto beating Margarito after Pacman put it on him and shattered his eye socket?

It was a symbolic victory for Cotto, far from his greatest wins.

^when I read this I heard an angry voice. You are a true Pac hater man.

really because I see an angry feminine outburst from you as evident by this incoherent trash of a rant that ejected out of your mouth

What about Floyd beating on Pacmans left overs remember when Pac beat Cotto everyone said he was damaged by Margarito, even when Cotto went up to 154 the Pac haters said Pac could beat Cotto again at 154, Cotto is shot and they didn't want that rematch, all of a sudden Floyd fights Cotto, now this is the best Cotto yet? even though the Floyd fans said Cotto looked slow and bloated at 154? Now he is a better version of Cotto and this version of Cotto who gave Floyd his toughest fight according to Floyd himself would have destroyed Pacman?

Did you butcher your keyboard as you furiously spammed away?

[HeroBando]

Also Margarito said himself that Pacman gave him an advantage by allowing him to fight at a catch weight, Margo said when he fought Mosley he was so weak from the weight cut after ballooning in weight and partying after his win against Cotto.

The only thing I don't like is fighting for titles at catchweights.

Margo was far from shot I agree, he gave Pacman one hell of a fight and showed he has heart.

I think that Margo could even give Floyd a tougher fight, Floyd would have to get on his bike against an iron chin guy like Margo and it would gas him out and cause hiim to get hit, if Cotto could have trapped Floyd that way imagine Margarito over 12 rounds? Floyd's stamina only looks great because he rarely uses his legs or wastes shots, the pressure for Margo would have tested him.

I wish Margo never cheated though, his trainer is an idiot.

Yea, nobody likes CW belts. But he'd already won a record 6 before asking for his 1st CW. By contrast, both Canelo and Ortiz won their 1st belts at CWs, and you hardly ever see a thread slamming them for it.

[HeroBando]

Let's see Marquez suffered a schooling at his only 147 performance prior to the third fight with manny. manny who is a 140 pounder according to his handlers and fans decides to drag Marquez to 147.

Nope. Marquez made him drop to a CW, similar to Floyd, except Pac honored the contract weight.

[The Big Dunn]

Contrary to what some newer posters believe I was actually a bonified Pacman fan before the Margarito fight. In fact that was the fight that turned me off. It was that fight that did it entirely.

Concerning him & Marquez, I actually thought Pacman could have won the 1st fight & easily I might add. Although I had no problem with it being a draw solely on the tremendous heart that Marquez demonstrated. I do believe that Pacman also won the 2nd fight. With his 2 point round being the difference.

I do however believe that Marquez clearly won the 3rd fight. But the fights before that were sickening to me. I think Pacman, Roach & arum were content with milking his sudden found star power for all it was worth.

But if Pacman was gonna get beaten, at least he got his from another great fighter. Some fighters had their star destroyed by mediocre fighters, good fighters but not great fighters. At 1st I was ecstatic about his destruction, but now I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. Hopefully he gets a decent win before he retires altogether, I do wish him the best.

If his first goal was Marquez 4 youd have a great argument. But Manny said he had nothing more to prove with JMM and fought him a 4th time only after refusing floyd again and unsuccessfully getting Cotto to fight at another CW.

He got KTFO trying to make easy money, which is something your posting history suggests you would cheer.

[bojangles1987]

I'm still a fan, but I hate that Pacquiao and Marquez are probably going to fight no one but each other until the day they retire.

I want to see Pac fight someone, anyone that he hasn't fought before. Anyone besides Marquez.

[KaL-EL]

Great post.

[shade darkar]

he can still get back to the top if he wants it enough although he isnt getting any younger and his style isnt one that will see him last a long time!

[Bushbaby]

If his first goal was Marquez 4 youd have a great argument. But Manny said he had nothing more to prove with JMM and fought him a 4th time only after refusing floyd again and unsuccessfully getting Cotto to fight at another CW.

He got KTFO trying to make easy money, which is something your posting history suggests you would cheer.

1st & foremost, how are you gonna come into my tread about how I feel about Pacman right now & tell me that my (argument) such & such?? There is no argument, it's how I feel about him right now, that is all.

2nd, my posting history doesn't matter when I'm speaking about how I feel about him right now. (No argument btw).

3rd, suppose I say, "well since you said (in your post history) that Floyd could beat any super middleweight not named Ward", such & such after you posted how you felt about something not concerning that at all, you'd probably be like wtf too right??

[The Big Dunn]

1st & foremost, how are you gonna come into my tread about how I feel about Pacman right now & tell me that my (argument) such & such?? There is no argument, it's how I feel about him right now, that is all.

2nd, my posting history doesn't matter when I'm speaking about how I feel about him right now. (No argument btw).

3rd, suppose I say, "well since you said (in your post history) that Floyd could beat any super middleweight not named Ward", such & such after you posted how you felt about something not concerning that at all, you'd probably be like wtf too right??

argument then is a bad word choice. I got the sense how you felt was in part detremined by the circumstances. i think if the circumstances were different I might agree with your sentiment.

all of our posting history is relevant.

i said floyd would be the betting favorite against direll or bute. if i posted something that was related to that post you'd have evry right to bring it up. the way you feel about manny right now, and the reason you posted about it, seems to be because it contrasts how you and posters that follow you would expect you to feel since you don't like when big stars win hand selected fights for big money.

[Bushbaby]

argument then is a bad word choice. I got the sense how you felt was in part detremined by the circumstances. i think if the circumstances were different I might agree with your sentiment.

all of our posting history is relevant.

i said floyd would be the betting favorite against direll or bute. if i posted something that was related to that post you'd have evry right to bring it up. the way you feel about manny right now, and the reason you posted about it, seems to be because it contrasts how you and posters that follow you would expect you to feel since you don't like when big stars win hand selected fights for big money.

Yes, argument was a horrendous choice of wording. The post started off to give a sense of how I felt as a fan, to how I felt not as a fan, to right now. Since he got stopped, I feel that at the very least, it happened at the hands of another genuinely great fighter & not some club fighter or hypejob. I don't see how anyone can even try to create a debate out of it, like you & hero bando did, just weird to me.