Why is Hopkins not suspected of PED's

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  • Scarcaztic
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxfan7819
    Because he fights smart if he were to have KO power all of a sudden then i would suspect it
    That has nothing to do with roids. Recovery, and ability to train as hard as he used to do when he was younger, would be the main benefits.

    Also, healing properties in roids.

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    • 2todabody
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      #12
      Originally posted by mathed
      Because he doesn't drink, smoke, eat meat, or take many supplements if any at all................insulting to insinuate otherwise tbh.
      along with what he said, notice when B-hop fights he doesn't waste any motions, uses every trick in the book (old school boxing at it's finest) and he makes his opponent fight at a slower pace, less punch output, etc..
      and all that criticism toward JMM came from Pac fans.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #13
        Lets be real here, I'm not ruling it out, personally I say he's clean, but Hopkins' work rate in the ring is shitty and the last time he stopped anyone was in 2004, a fight in which many people felt Oscar took a dive. I see pure skill and some veteran tactics; some dirtiness/ spoiling getting him through, nothing else.

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        • gusano
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          #14
          Originally posted by 2todabody
          along with what he said, notice when B-hop fights he doesn't waste any motions, uses every trick in the book (old school boxing at it's finest) and he makes his opponent fight at a slower pace, less punch output, etc..
          and all that criticism toward JMM came from Pac fans.
          You know that's where Hopkins longevity comes from...his fighting style. Just and old school scrapper that knows how to slow the pace and make other fighters fight his style.

          But what pisses me off is that it was not just the Pac fans that were slinging crap at Marquez it was the general media consensus. By their standards BHop should be PED suspect number 1 but everyone is mum.

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          • hectari
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            #15
            I'm giving B hop the benefit of the doubt, is he questionable at his age sure, but I think he has cherry picked guys who make him look good. Teddy Atlas has said it best about Hopkins he is like an illusion at his age he can get away with fighting raw one dimensional low boxing IQ fighters and people will praise him. Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson, Cloud were all tailor made for Hopkins all these guys are either hesitant or mental midgets in the ring when they can't figure you out. If you notice B hop said no amount of money they could give him to fight Andre Ward lol, he knows Ward would figure him out, and he even decided not to fight that Russian guy who knocked out that slick boxer who beat Cloud.

            If There were any Mexican fighters at 175 who had fearless aggression like Margarito or Rios, Hopkins age would show, Calzaghe made Hopkins look old cause of the pressure he applied this is why Pavliks people thought they could capitalize on him thinking he was on the decline but its not true it was a stylistic match up that is bad for Hopkins. You have to really smother him bad and out work Hopkins like Calzaghe did.

            I would have loved to see Hopkins versus Kessler, Bute or Froch

            If I where Bernard Hopkins I would have done the VADA year round testing to prove to everyone doubting him that he is in fact legit.

            JMM on the other hand is obvious he is possibly juicing, dudes physique changes at his age are unreal, his ability to take punches and deliver knock downs to a guy who he never dropped in his life was highly suspect, plus he aligned himself with Memo a known ped chemist who moved to Mexico and continued to cheat in sports even after giving testimony.

            Dude even changed his name lol thinking nobody would know its him.
            Last edited by hectari; 03-10-2013, 12:47 AM.

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              #16
              Caw he a slick bruva, bruvas aint gah ta cheat yo

              ...is what some are thinking

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              • Hougigo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mayweather41-0
                so just because someone accomplishes something special they should be suspected of ped's?
                Well.... that's the logic for everything else around here

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                • dan_cov
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  I'm giving B hop the benefit of the doubt, is he questionable at his age sure, but I think he has cherry picked guys who make him look good. Teddy Atlas has said it best about Hopkins he is like an illusion at his age he can get away with fighting raw one dimensional low boxing IQ fighters and people will praise him. Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson, Cloud were all tailor made for Hopkins all these guys are either hesitant or mental midgets in the ring when they can't figure you out. If you notice B hop said no amount of money they could give him to fight Andre Ward lol, he knows Ward would figure him out, and he even decided not to fight that Russian guy who knocked out that slick boxer who beat Cloud.

                  If There were any Mexican fighters at 175 who had fearless aggression like Margarito or Rios, Hopkins age would show, Calzaghe made Hopkins look old cause of the pressure he applied this is why Pavliks people thought they could capitalize on him thinking he was on the decline but its not true it was a stylistic match up that is bad for Hopkins. You have to really smother him bad and out work Hopkins like Calzaghe did.

                  If I where Bernard Hopkins I would have done the VADA year round testing to prove to everyone doubting him that he is in fact legit.

                  JMM on the other hand is obvious he is juicing, dudes physique changes at his age are unreal, plus he aligned himself with Memo a known ped chemist who moved to Mexico and continued to cheat in sports even after giving testimony.

                  Dude even changed his name lol thinking nobody would know its him.

                  Unbelievable!

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                  • S. Saddler 1310
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RiC-DiC
                    I actually thought B-Hop's body looked softer than usual tonight.
                    he's losing muscle-mass over time, natural for a 48 year old man. his timing and defense are sublime, though, still.

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                    • Alt.Manger
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                      #20
                      A lot of posters here should find a library and read on physiology - especially endocrinology to get an understanding of how the hormonal system in our vessels work.

                      PEDs/steroids are not wonder drugs. They won't suddenly make you perform 10x better all of a sudden.

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