Mike Watson appreciation (the hell with Anorak and all the critics)

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  • galindez
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    #11
    Gregster, you state Watson won the 1982 London light-middleweight title. Tottenham's Martin Patrick won it.
    You say Watson lost to Errol Christie as an amateur. They never fought.
    You say he beat Dan Sherry and Shawn O'Sullivan in the Canada Cup. Watson didn't even go to the Canada Cup, let alone beat those two outstanding men.
    You say he won the 1983 London ABA middleweight title. Tyrone Forbes won it.
    And Mike Watson never fought Mike Nunn as an amateur.
    Where do you get off writing this bull****?

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    • Moschino045
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      #12
      Watson was the man! He looked unbeatable in that 2nd fight with Eubank, realy did look like a man possessed that night, he just attacked Eubank like a madman (which was never his style before that) nonstop & just damn dominated the fight until an uppercut frm hell

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      • Moschino045
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        #13
        Originally posted by jabsRstiff
        Everybody.....


        Mike McCallum gave Watson as bad a beating as you'll ever see.


        Don't believe the BULL**** about Watson being sick, or fighting the wrong fight. I don't want to hear that Watson elected to not counterpunch against McCallum. McCallum dictated what went on in there, that day. Watson on his best day couldn't outbox Mike ****in' McCallum. His only hope was to go at McCallum. He did, & he was slaughtered.
        McCallum was far superior to Watson, Benn, & Eubank. That's why Watson had success with Eubanks & Benn, but was horribly outclassed by McCallum.
        Don't let these obsessed ****s tell you any different.
        Lol dude, thats clear brit hating there.

        Benn was beating Watson for four or five rounds far more than McCallum was for four or five rounds,
        & Eubank looked much better against Watson than McCallum did in the first fight for the first four or five rounds, but Eubank just got lazy when he had the beating of Watson, & i dont know if anybody could of beat the Watson that fought Eubank the second time !

        Eubank lost, say, about six of the last seven rounds in the first Watson fight just due to laziness more than anything. but the second Watson fight Watson just battered him from start to finish & Eubank really tried hard that night but Watson was better than ever & like a man possessed on that night
        Last edited by Moschino045; 01-10-2006, 09:06 AM.

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        • jabsRstiff
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          #14
          Originally posted by Moschino045
          Lol dude, thats clear brit hating there.

          Benn was beating Watson for four or five rounds far more so than McCallum was for four or five rounds, & Eubank looked much better against Watson in the first fight for the first four or five rounds than McCallum did, but Eubank just got lazy when he had the beating of Watson early on, & i dont know if anybody could of beat the Watson that fought Eubank the second time !

          Watson won one round against McCallum, & that is being very generous.
          Watson was demolished by McCallum.

          I know you didn't see it, if you think otherwise.


          Benn.....he got rope-a-doped by Watson, buddy. I just watched that fight again a few weeks back.
          Benn never hurt Watson, who was just wating for Benn to blow his wad.....& with those ridiculous homerun swings Benn was taking, Watson need not wait long. All Watson did was stick quick, straight shots from his high & tight guard, until those little shot & Benn's horrendous attack did Nigel in.

          I saw both Watson-Benn, & Watson-McCallum. You did not.

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          • Moschino045
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            #15
            Originally posted by jabsRstiff
            Watson won one round against McCallum, & that is being very generous.
            Watson was demolished by McCallum.

            I know you didn't see it, if you think otherwise.


            Benn.....he got rope-a-doped by Watson, buddy. I just watched that fight again a few weeks back.
            Benn never hurt Watson, who was just wating for Benn to blow his wad.....& with those ridiculous homerun swings Benn was taking, Watson need not wait long. All Watson did was stick quick, straight shots from his high & tight guard, until those little shot & Benn's horrendous attack did Nigel in.

            I saw both Watson-Benn, & Watson-McCallum. You did not.
            Dude, ive got all four on VHS some where. Benn v Watson, McCallum v Watson, Eubank v Watson I&II.
            Even Watson himself admits Benn was far better than McCallum in that link in one of the posts above. Eubank looked better than Benn & McCallum, against Watson, he looked to be cruising to an easy points win until Watson caught him in round five or round six & stunned him & then Eubank didnt want to get into any exchanges for the rest of the fight & just hung in there til the end realy. Watson didnt quite do enough to win that first Eubank fight & i thought Eubank looked better than McCallum did, talent-wise not stamina-wise.

            Watson from McCallum fight v Watson from second Eubank fight would probably end in a TKO1 win for the latter

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            • Moschino045
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              #16
              Originally posted by galindez
              Gregster, you state Watson won the 1982 London light-middleweight title. Tottenham's Martin Patrick won it.
              You say he won the 1983 London ABA middleweight title. Tyrone Forbes won it.
              Im sure he means juniors not seniors
              Watson was born in 1965 so he would of been 17-18 in 82-83

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              • Orange Sneakers
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                #17
                Originally posted by galindez
                Gregster, you state Watson won the 1982 London light-middleweight title. Tottenham's Martin Patrick won it.
                You say Watson lost to Errol Christie as an amateur. They never fought.
                You say he beat Dan Sherry and Shawn O'Sullivan in the Canada Cup. Watson didn't even go to the Canada Cup, let alone beat those two outstanding men.
                You say he won the 1983 London ABA middleweight title. Tyrone Forbes won it.
                And Mike Watson never fought Mike Nunn as an amateur.
                Where do you get off writing this bull****?
                Michael does say in his book that he competed in Detroit and Canada,but doesnt say who against so I cant comment on that. Im pretty sure Jimmy McDonnell says during the commentary of the Watson/Christie fight in 1990 that Christie beat a young Watson before entering the paid ranks,get the Probox version of that card(not the ITV version). Michael also said at a press conference in 1990 how he lost to Don Lee but avenged the defeat seven years later at Wembley Arena and wanted to do the same to Michael Nunn but at Wembley Stadium in a middleweight unification if he beat Nigel Benn again(for Benns WBO belt),so I dont know what that means. Not having a go at you or anything,just stating what I know. Cheers.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                  Watson won one round against McCallum, & that is being very generous.
                  Watson was demolished by McCallum.

                  I know you didn't see it, if you think otherwise.


                  Benn.....he got rope-a-doped by Watson, buddy. I just watched that fight again a few weeks back.
                  Benn never hurt Watson, who was just wating for Benn to blow his wad.....& with those ridiculous homerun swings Benn was taking, Watson need not wait long. All Watson did was stick quick, straight shots from his high & tight guard, until those little shot & Benn's horrendous attack did Nigel in.

                  I saw both Watson-Benn, & Watson-McCallum. You did not.
                  Damn,Ill have to see Mccallum/Watson again some time! I know Watson left it until the last min to decide if he was going to turn up due to illness but I dont remember it being THAT onesided,one judge had it scored 96/94 at the time of the stoppage. I remember Watson being competitive early with Mccallum before the bodypunching got him. From what I remember,Watson didnt look comfortable on the front foot against McCallum and I remember it being the first fight I saw him use that approach because he usually stayed on back foot or abit static. Watson showed flashes of excellence against excellent opposition in Carlton Warren and Don Lee,but for the Eubank rematch he just looked insanely good and he could of been a future alltimer but we will never know because of the tragic outcome when Watson was looking unbeatable.

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                    #19
                    To be honest I thought he looked abit timid against Benn,Mccallum and Eubank at 160 because he overtrained to make the 160 pounds limit for those title bouts,whereas before in the nontitle bouts he could get away with weighing three or four pounds over the limit each time. He actually moved up to lightheavy in 1989 for one fight before the Benn fight was arranged,he was a lightheavy fighting at 160 until the Eubank rematch where he had the luxury of a 168 limit and it obviously showed because he didnt look so timid going into his last fight. Thats why I say Warren,Lee and Eubank rematch were his three best performances because he didnt have to drain down to 160 and the opposition were very good. Benn/Watson fight,I havent seen it for ages but from my memory Benn was winning every round until he got thumbed in the eye.

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                    • Gregster
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                      Everybody.....


                      Mike McCallum gave Watson as bad a beating as you'll ever see.


                      Don't believe the BULL**** about Watson being sick, or fighting the wrong fight. I don't want to hear that Watson elected to not counterpunch against McCallum. McCallum dictated what went on in there, that day. Watson on his best day couldn't outbox Mike ****in' McCallum. His only hope was to go at McCallum. He did, & he was slaughtered.
                      McCallum was far superior to Watson, Benn, & Eubank. That's why Watson had success with Eubanks & Benn, but was horribly outclassed by McCallum.
                      Don't let these obsessed ****s tell you any different.
                      Watson had the flu, was extremely rusty, and his preparations had not gone correctly and neither did his tactics. His corner should of ****ing pulled him out like five rounds before he collapsed, because he was clearly in no fit state to be in a boxing ring that night and took a beating because his corner didn't pull him out. The guy had the flu FFS, and McCallum put in the best performance of his entire career.

                      McCallum wouldn't of lived with Watson from the Eubank-Watson 2 fight, though.

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