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  • S. Saddler 1310
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    #31
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    You outline something I say in an attempt to make a point but chose to ignore the rest surrounding it? He probably didn't need Mitchell too soften him up but he practically did anyway.
    read again, i addressed all of the three discernible points you made (which were somewhat lacking in substance).

    they were as follows - Mitchell beat Murray up first, people are making excuses for Rios (rather than astutely noting the circumstances) when they mention him struggling/failing to make 135 in his final two LW fights (the second of which should have never been agreed to, allow me to say) and Rios is "garbage". some real science there, buddy.


    the significance of Murray being down in the dumps is doubtful. if he couldn't raise himself mentally for an opportunity like that -- and i'm sure he did, as he gave the best account of himself he could possibly have given -- he wouldn't belong in a ring. Rios' problems were physical, and they were very perceptible in the fight to those who can understand what they're looking at. i perceived them before i was even aware that he'd left all his gas on the scales, but could only put them down to an 'off night' or careless preparation before i read about his troubles with the weight.


    Originally posted by dan_cov
    Hes beaten nothing but smaller guys who have been knocked out before and often multiple times before with the exception of Alvarado.
    He hasn't beaten anybody worth a damn and neither has Broner for that matter.
    Acosta was a big, legitimate career LW with skills and (covetable for a fighter of his style) punching power. Peterson is a technically solid guy, not small, he was taking a beating and fouled his way out of being KO'd.

    so Rios was reared on cannon-fodder and guys who had been stopped more than once before. gee, that's unheard of. lolol

    now, when it comes to his real competition, so what if guys have been knocked out before? Manny Pacquiao had been knocked out before, by guys who couldn't carry his jock ultimately, but it took over a decade's worth of fights against world class opponents for him to be knocked out again. it's interesting that you neglect to note when a guy like Acosta was knocked out (almost a decade previously).

    when will fools realize that a man having lost fights or having been knocked out in fights is not the be-all and end-all? it's not where you're from, it's where you're at. not every fighter can have a smooth passage to the top.


    Originally posted by dan_cov
    Seriously write me a list of every world champion worse than Brandon Rios..
    Because their sure as hell can not be many.
    are you serious? do you have all night?

    btw, is that what passes for a well-argued point in your world? demanding lists from your correspondent?


    Originally posted by dan_cov
    As for calling Mitchells K.O of Murray, it was nothing out of the ordinary, I called a late K.O myself. Murray is frankly a very ordinary brawler and nothing more. In fact 95% of Rios resume is filled with very ordinary brawlers.
    read the post again, Charlie Big Potatoes. the point was more to clarify my position re. Mitchell, lest my comments be interpreted as disdainful of him.

    that said, Murray was favoured by the majority of observers and oddsmakers.

    looked for your prediction, but your first post on this forum was made after the fight happened. here's mine.
    Last edited by S. Saddler 1310; 03-06-2013, 12:06 AM.

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    • HeroBando
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      #32
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Hes beaten nothing but smaller guys who have been knocked out before and often multiple times before with the exception of Alvarado.
      He hasn't beaten anybody worth a damn and neither has Broner for that matter.
      Man, you're the worst with facts. He beat Peterson, who was undefeated, hadn't shown chin problems, and was better regarded than his brother.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
        LOL. If this fight happened, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it Broner showed better inside game.




        me neither, too bad hell get kod either way......

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          #34
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Man, you're the worst with facts. He beat Peterson, who was undefeated, hadn't shown chin problems, and was better regarded than his brother.
          right.


          you know what's amusing about Dan? he'll say that nobody Rios has faced is 'worth a damn', then in the next breath he'll make impassioned defences of Rigo's competition.

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            #35
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Man, you're the worst with facts. He beat Peterson, who was undefeated, hadn't shown chin problems, and was better regarded than his brother.

            By who exactly?

            He was nothing more than a prospect who hadn't fought anybody.

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              #36
              Has Broner been knocked down yet? I know Rios' been down before in his career.

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                #37
                Acosta was nothing but a journeyman who hadn't beat anybody noteworthy except Antillion, another guy that was overrated as you get and at the very tail end of his career when Bum Bum beat him.

                Yeah a few fighters get knocked out early in their careers and bounce back but you could see from day one Manny Pacquaio had a lot going for him and more so than Acosta and a some bum ass slugger who made a living from being a sparring partner to 3rd rate fighters in Antillion.

                The reality is Rios hasn't beaten anybody his best win is a guy who went life and death with C rate Herrera & was getting hammered by Prescott until he punched himself out.

                He faced one guy above C level and he lost every round in the process.


                There is probably 10 guys I'd have no problem with picking over him and another 10 I feel would be 50/50
                He wouldn't even beat most of the top 10 at 135.
                He doesn't beat Broner or Vasquez, Abril, he wouldn't even beat Burns.

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                  #38
                  People put down **** on Broner ever since he got hit from Rees. Broner's got as many KOs as Rios and doesn't get hit as much and fights inside often.

                  Not to mention Broner is smarter in the ring.
                  Last edited by SlySlickSmooth; 03-06-2013, 12:27 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    Yeah a few fighters get knocked out early in their careers and bounce back but you could see from day one Manny Pacquaio had a lot going for him and more so than Acosta and a some bum ass slugger who made a living from being a sparring partner to 3rd rate fighters in Antillion.
                    so Manny and Acosta are different levels of fighter, duh. 99% of fighters in history will compare unfavourably to Pacquiao. that doesn't negate the point i made at all. Pacquiao was merely an example.


                    Rios has beaten only C fighters, really?

                    you live in a world of double-standards, Daniel. when Rigo's comp is questioned, we can find you crying and doing your best to make that opposition sound like a murderers row. then when we're talking about someone you don't irrationally worship, we can find you carelessly and pompously throwing around phrases like "C rate" and "life and death" like they're going out of fashion.


                    your debate skills are limited and you are predisposed to think a certain way, so any further reasoning is wasted on you. the kind of guy who talks about NSB teeming with uneducated fools, seemingly oblivious to the fact that he is just one more. have a pleasant morning.
                    Last edited by S. Saddler 1310; 03-06-2013, 12:25 AM.

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                    • baya
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                      #40
                      s. saddler owned in this thread like his namesake in the ring.

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