Comments Thread For: Arum Says Chavez Jr. Fine Violates The U.S. Constitution

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  • Fighting_Pride
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    #11
    i've got to side with arum on this one. c'mon, weed? that crappy nevada commission are leeches, they need boxing, not the other way around

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    • anonymous2.0
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      #12
      The Eighth ********* to the U.S. Constitution reads:

      Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


      Is 900,000 dollars considered excessive? Percentage wise its only 30% of his reported income for that fight and you would have to argue that 30% is excessive.

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      • RedDevil5
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        #13
        Originally posted by devildg
        adjusted for inflation, its really not that excessive

        when did Arum become a Constitutional lawyer?

        sit your ass down Bob
        Arum is a harvard law school alumni so im sure he knows about all that crap

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        • danktrees
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          #14
          Originally posted by vortex662290
          I think the athletic commission is insane... come on bro chavez smoked weed, weed! $900k w/ 9 months is insanity. If you support boxing on this case you side with the boxer.
          you do realize that part of the fine is attributed to the fact that this is his second failed test right?

          also, they didn't fine him a set amount. they didnt just look at him and say give us 900k. they fined him a percentage of his purse (30%), he just happened to have made a lot of money for that fight so it ended up being 900k. it is consistent with their previous fines where diaz was fined 30% for failing his second drug test due to marijuana as well. except in diaz' case he was fined 30% and banned for a year, not 9 months like chavez. his first fine was 10% (10k) of his 100k purse, but being this is his second offense it went up to 30% which isnt unreasonable. He just happened to make a lot more money for this fight so the fine amount was larger.

          dont look at the amount of the fine, look at the percentage because that's what the fine was based on. like if they fined mayweather 1% for marijuana use, everyone would be up in arms about how he got fined 500k for smoking pot when in reality it's just 1%. you can say that the amount is excessive, but it's based on a percentage of the purse, they didnt just randomly choose 900k as an amount for the fine.
          Last edited by danktrees; 03-04-2013, 09:21 PM.

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          • danktrees
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            #15
            Originally posted by anonymous2.0
            The Eighth ********* to the U.S. Constitution reads:

            Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


            Is 900,000 dollars considered excessive? Percentage wise its only 30% of his reported income for that fight and you would have to argue that 30% is excessive.
            thats less than what i pay in income tax...

            but to the point, it is because it's his second failed test that results in a higher fine. the first time he only got fined 10k but being a tool he didnt learn so now the punishments are more severe. that fine was 10% of his purse. for his second offense they fined him 30% which i dont think is unreasonable.

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            • gbonafide
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              #16
              Julio found out the hard way that getting his gameface on for Fight Night Champion on PS3 is not the same as firing up before a real fight.

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              • mathed
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                #17
                Arum, no.....just no....it's time to hang em up and let Debouf carry the TR torch.

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                • mathed
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Fighting_Pride
                  i've got to side with arum on this one. c'mon, weed? that crappy nevada commission are leeches, they need boxing, not the other way around
                  It makes up for the fines he didn't have to pay for the drug tests he would have failed in other Texas fights had he actually taken them like he was supposed to.

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                  • anonymous2.0
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by danktrees
                    thats less than what i pay in income tax...

                    but to the point, it is because it's his second failed test that results in a higher fine. the first time he only got fined 10k but being a tool he didnt learn so now the punishments are more severe. that fine was 10% of his purse. for his second offense they fined him 30% which i dont think is unreasonable.
                    Agreed, its hard to argue that 30% is excessive, especially when he' still making a couple mil afterwards.

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                    • xcaret IV
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                      #20
                      how much did they fine peterson and berto????

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