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  • BattlingNelson
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    #491
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Actually there were some fantastic posts explaining why he isn't an ATG, you just don't want to hear them. Vit was a very good fighter but he falls short of all time greatness based on his resume. Would he be a contender in any era? No doubt. But unless you actually prove it in the ring against solid comp you just don't leap frog other fighters who have.
    Tell us who is ranked above Vitali then.

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      #492
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      More than two-thirds of the board say he's not an ATG. The reason, lack of quality opponents. If Vittles is an ATG we might as well say Brian Nielson is an all time great as well.
      So Nielsen ranks alongside Vitali huh? I cannot wait to see you list the fighters above Vitali on your very own ATG list.

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        #493
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        How do you judge all time greatness? Accomplishment and resume is the standard true boxing historians use. If you think Vits is an all time great you must include fighters like Ruiz and Nielsen as well. Ruiz has a better resume and Nielsen is comparable. Are they all time greats?
        And Ruiz as well. Interesting. Post your list of heavies above Vitali. We could all use a good lol when the oftbanned historysection mod posts his outstanding list.

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          #494
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Insults and Klit bashing? I've shown exactly why Vits is not an all time great. If we use your standards that you have to call Ruiz a great also. I'm not all over the place, I've just put you in a spot where you have to admit your foolish double standards or admit Vits doesn't belong on a heavyweight top 20 list. Its why you cannot debate me on their resumes. And since when do I need to team up with anyone? Sorry, but most see you as a no nothing nuthugger and conspiracy theorist who has little knowledge of anything he talks about. Man up and compare their best wins, son!
          Post your list then oftbanned mod.

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            #495
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            So in other words you can't find a single one with anything to back up his credentials, Right? And who are you to say what matters in this context or not? One third is a terrible ratio for a supposedly all time great no matter what context its in. Lol, you're getting taken to school in your own thread.....again!!
            I didn't know respected historians ranked non retired fighters, but give us some names of those do and show us their rankings. This could be interesting.

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              #496
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Tell us who is ranked above Vitali then.
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              So Nielsen ranks alongside Vitali huh? I cannot wait to see you list the fighters above Vitali on your very own ATG list.
              Lol, the hypocrite who won't post his own list wants ANOTHER one from me!! Atta boy Bat, keep on trolling!! How about answering my questions? Does everyone who voted Vits is not an ATG have an agenda? And when are you going to post those links to me ridiculing anyone who ranks ole Vits just outside the top 20. Don't worry, you don't need to post those links as we all know you were lying. You should man up for a change and post your own list though. Eh, I guess its easier to just troll me instead of backing up your hollow and meaningless words, huh buddy?

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                #497
                ATG???no that word is thrown around to easily around here

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                  #498
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Lol, the hypocrite who won't post his own list wants ANOTHER one from me!! Atta boy Bat, keep on trolling!! How about answering my questions? Does everyone who voted Vits is not an ATG have an agenda? And when are you going to post those links to me ridiculing anyone who ranks ole Vits just outside the top 20. Don't worry, you don't need to post those links as we all know you were lying. You should man up for a change and post your own list though. Eh, I guess its easier to just troll me instead of backing up your hollow and meaningless words, huh buddy?
                  Post your list oftbanned mod. Show a little guts so we can see if all your ridicule is something else than just trolling.

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                    #499
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    I didn't know respected historians ranked non retired fighters, but give us some names of those do and show us their rankings. This could be interesting.
                    Come on jab. You can do it.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #500
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      I didn't know respected historians ranked non retired fighters, but give us some names of those do and show us their rankings. This could be interesting.
                      Funny but I believe I was saying the same thing. Nice try, but another backfire on your part. Still waiting on your list though, stop being so scared!

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