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  • Jam Jars
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    #51
    Originally posted by ShamrockXpress
    Well if your arguement against vitali is that he has beat no ATGs then it would make sense to rank people who HAVE beat ATGs? No? Well then your arguement against doesn't hold much water does it
    My argument is if Vitali's a ATG because he gives ATG's a run for their money then those that beat ATG should be ATG too, because they did more than give them a run for their money.
    Last edited by Jam Jars; 03-05-2013, 10:35 AM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
      Douglas and Rahman never had the longevity and dominance like Vitali, so incomparable. Good try though, tosser.
      Dominance? He didn't dominate before he retired and has fought garbage cherry picked opponents since his return.

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      • Weltschmerz
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        #53
        Originally posted by Own3d
        Dominance? He didn't dominate before he retired and has fought garbage cherry picked opponents since his return.
        Briggs and Charr were not the best choices, the rest were viable contenders.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Weltschmerz
          Briggs and Charr were not the best choices, the rest were viable contenders.
          No they were garbage cherry picks like that Sosnowski.

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          • BigAlexSand
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            #55
            HOF, yes but All Time Great; hell no... He has had some good achievements but far from what history has already seen from the heavyweight division. With the likes of Holmes, Ali, Foreman, Louis, Dempsey, Marciano, Tyson, and many more past greats; he will never claim a top 10 ATG.

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #56
              Originally posted by BigAlexSand
              HOF, yes but All Time Great; hell no... He has had some good achievements but far from what history has already seen from the heavyweight division. With the likes of Holmes, Ali, Foreman, Louis, Dempsey, Marciano, Tyson, and many more past greats; he will never claim a top 10 ATG.
              Louis, Dempsey, Marciano were midgets, Vitali would have dominated and trashed them.

              Holmes and Foreman would have been great battles, 50/50 match-ups.

              Ali-Vitali is very intriguing and has many implications. Vitali would have been Ali's greatest win should he have come out victorious.

              Vitali-Tyson could have been fireworks too, I have Vitali breaking Tyson down and stopping him in the later rounds.

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              • Cuban Linx
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                #57
                Sam Peter held the WBC title...

                Juan Carlos Gomez was a great fighter, earned his right at a title eliminator.

                Chris Arreola, the jury is still out on him he could end up being great or he could fail.

                Sosnowski and Briggs were bums, I agree.

                Solis is definitely not a bum (ask David Haye).

                Tomasz Adamek, good fighter and earned his shot.

                Derek Chisora beat Robert Helenius, got clearly robbed and Vitali gave him a shot. Not saying he's good, but he beat top ranked Helenius.

                Manuel Charr, he just wiped out Airich a guy who took Solis 12 rounds. So we may end up doing something (although unlikely).

                None of them will go down as ATG. But they were viable opponents at the time.
                Last edited by Cuban Linx; 03-05-2013, 12:53 PM.

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                • yoz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  Vitali would have given any ATG a tough run for their money.

                  Vitali = ATG.

                  That's ridiculous logic.

                  GTFOH, troll.
                  Last edited by yoz; 03-05-2013, 01:18 PM.

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                  • gmc_rfc_06
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                    Louis, Dempsey, Marciano were midgets, Vitali would have dominated and trashed them.

                    Holmes and Foreman would have been great battles, 50/50 match-ups.

                    Ali-Vitali is very intriguing and has many implications. Vitali would have been Ali's greatest win should he have come out victorious.

                    Vitali-Tyson could have been fireworks too, I have Vitali breaking Tyson down and stopping him in the later rounds.

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                    • Dostojevski
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Own3d
                      No they were garbage cherry picks like that Sosnowski.
                      Wouldt say that, there wasnt any proper opposition willing

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