Mayweather's 147-154 resume

[The Gambler1981]

That is a joke, right?

He absolutely destroyed, embarrassed and retired Mitchell.

No it isn't because Mitchell gave him a lot of issues~ he certainly didn't embarrass him because Williams was expected to kill Mitchell, Mitchell did better than expected.

[The Gambler1981]

Total dominance and just about as one-sided as you could possibly get.

I see Williams getting hit an awful lot~

[dan_cov]

No it isn't because Mitchell gave him a lot of issues~ he certainly didn't embarrass him because Williams was expected to kill Mitchell, Mitchell did better than expected.

He didn't though, Williams beat the tar out of him! He won every minute of every round, dropped him several times and stopped him inside 4 lop-sided rounds.

[The Gambler1981]

Guerrero isn't a counterpuncher, but he could make it a rough fight. I personally wasn't very impressed with his performances against Aydin and Berto. Many people here were claiming that Aydin was a much better win for him than Berto; I even made a thread a while ago which confirms this:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=574429

And that win seemed to have lost some luster after Soto-Karass virtually shutout Aydin.

I personally was not impressed with Williams in many fights, although I liked his wins against Margarito, Phillips and Winky. Also the first fight with Martinez was a heck of an effort no matter if you think he won or not and how he avenged that loss to Quintana was impressive.

He was fairly inconsistent though, to go through a run of any 9 fights against high quality boxers consistency is the key to not losing.

[The Gambler1981]

He didn't though, Williams beat the tar out of him! He won every minute of every round, dropped him several times and stopped him inside 4 lop-sided rounds.

He hit Williams a lot, Williams was the better man there is no denying that.

[HeroBando]

So why did Pac want to drain Cotto down to 150? Why did Cotto rather fight Trout at the full 154 than the much more lucrative fight against Pac at 150?

My guess is that Pac's management knew the fight at 154 wouldn't be a forgone conclusion (or maybe didn't want to get called out at the full 154 by other fighters afterwards). Cotto probably felt he couldn't make 150 in a healthy manner (I think he mentioned in an interview that he wouldn't let Pac weight drain him again). So at that point in his career I think it's safe to say that Cotto felt more confident at the full 154 although career-wise his best weight was probably 147 (or 140).

It's simple man, he felt like a boss for giving Floyd a "tough" fight, thought Trout would be no problem. Look how he stormed out of the ring, he didn't for a second think he'd lose that fight, in his second hometown for non ppv money.

He probably knew he didn't have a chance vs Pac, then found whatever excuse. Remember him complaining about the money offered? How much you think he made vs Trout, comparatively?

What makes you think he's drained at 150? It's probably his best weight right now. Have you ever heard of a champ asking to defend his belt at a CW? Cotto asked for 150 vs one eyed Marg. Then taunted Pac into offering 150, since Pac was unwilling to go above 147, as he promised after Marg. When offered, he picked any excuse he could.

http://www.boxingscene.com/cotto-pacquiao-fear-me-mayweather-go-154--48943

[BafanaBafana]

It's simple man, he felt like a boss for giving Floyd a "tough" fight, thought Trout would be no problem. Look how he stormed out of the ring, he didn't for a second think he'd lose that fight, in his second hometown for non ppv money.

He probably knew he didn't have a chance vs Pac, then found whatever excuse. Remember him complaining about the money offered? How much you think he made vs Trout, comparatively?

What makes you think he's drained at 150? It's probably his best weight right now. Have you ever heard of a champ asking to defend his belt at a CW? Cotto asked for 150 vs one eyed Marg. Then taunted Pac into offering 150, since Pac was unwilling to go above 147, as he promised after Marg. When offered, he picked any excuse he could.

http://www.boxingscene.com/cotto-pac...-go-154--48943

Well, in that article Cotto did say "If Pacquiao wants to fight me again, it must be above 150 pounds." I think that suggests that he isn't willing to be weight drained down to 150 either. He was also calling all the shots against Trout so he could have arranged for the fight to be at a lower weight if he wanted to.

[HeroBando]

Well, in that article Cotto did say "If Pacquiao wants to fight me again, it must be above 150 pounds." I think that suggests that he isn't willing to be weight drained down to 150 either. He was also calling all the shots against Trout so he could have arranged for the fight to be at a lower weight if he wanted to.

You're nitpicking:

Cotto will not budge from his position of refusing to fight below 150-pounds. Pacquiao is refusing to fight Cotto above the welterweight limit of 147. However, Mayweather has no problem with fighting Cotto at 150 or above.

"I will not fight below 150 pounds. Mayweather Jr. said he has no problem going up to 154 to fight me. Pacquiao is the one who objected and wants me to once again come down to a weight between 145 and 147 pounds. If Pacquiao had no trouble going up to 150 to fight Margarito, why is there a set requirement for me to go down again? Does he fear me? If Pacquiao wants to fight me again, it must be above 150 pounds. I will not continue to sacrifice my body to lose weight

That's multiple statements that he's fine with 150, and 1 you could read as 151. So he took the other fight for 1/3 the money over 1lb and imprecise language? Makes sense, he wasn't gonna defend his 154 belt for Marg 2 unless it was at most 153

So have you found another instance of a champ asking to defend at a catchweight vs a divisional contender? How about vs medically unfit non contender?

[BafanaBafana]

You're nitpicking:



That's multiple statements that he's fine with 150, and 1 you could read as 151. So he took the other fight for 1/3 the money over 1lb and imprecise language? Makes sense, he wasn't gonna defend his 154 belt for Marg 2 unless it was at most 153

So have you found another instance of a champ asking to defend at a catchweight vs a divisional contender? How about vs medically unfit non contender?

I'm just going by Cotto's quote, not the reporter's words/interpretation. I also think that if Cotto could still fight at 147 he'd do so in a heartbeat. There isn't one top contender at 154 that doesn't look considerably taller/larger than Cotto.

[-PBP-]

From your list I would take Trinidad (although Oscar gave him all he could handle) and maybe Williams.