Mayweather's 147-154 resume

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  • BafanaBafana
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    #31
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    Paul Williams always does great in fantasy fights.....nevermind that he lost to Quintana at 147 once.
    The closest thing to Quintana on that list is Zab Judah everyone else is entirely different. The problem with Judah is that he was a very small 147 pounder and had poor stamina (only fought well for the first 6 rounds of his fights).
    Quintana was a good southpaw counterpuncher (besides P.Will, he also had a good win against Joel Julio) his biggest problem was his chin and inside fighting (can't defend himself very well on the inside). It's also worth mentioning that P. Will had a lot of problems making weight in their first fight (weighed 162 fight night) and looked a bit lethargic as a result; Quintana's southpaw stance and footwork also gave him problems. In the rematch P. Will was able to make weight with less problems (weighed 156 fight night) and got started early hence the early KO.

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      #32
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      When its broken down like that its so easy to see just how bad his level of competition has been. In 8 years that is all he has fought?

      And I know people will say they was #1 or #2 at the time but that is only because he has waited years for the division(s) to thin out.

      ''Its his 4th weight class'' Please!

      Lets face it he wasted most of his prime. I can't support the guy any longer and haven't for years, hes a joke.

      Mitchell, Boldomir, Ortiz Cotto, 40yr old Mosley.

      Just names when he fought them. Err. Just retire, I cba spending the next 3 years listening to Larry defend the **** you fight.
      Green k sent.

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        #33
        Guerrero would stand a good chance of beating Williams as well~ if you want to include him

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          #34
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          man Pac beat Cotto at any weight. it's a matter of simple principle, Pac's never fighting at 154 for anyone much less a guy he destroyed. Cotto is probably better at 150 than at 154, and he didnt want it there, after asking for 150 6 months earlier and requesting it from one eyed Marg.
          So why did Pac want to drain Cotto down to 150? Why did Cotto rather fight Trout at the full 154 than the much more lucrative fight against Pac at 150?

          My guess is that Pac's management knew the fight at 154 wouldn't be a forgone conclusion (or maybe didn't want to get called out at the full 154 by other fighters afterwards). Cotto probably felt he couldn't make 150 in a healthy manner (I think he mentioned in an interview that he wouldn't let Pac weight drain him again). So at that point in his career I think it's safe to say that Cotto felt more confident at the full 154 although career-wise his best weight was probably 147 (or 140).

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            #35
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            Paul Williams always does great in fantasy fights.....nevermind that he lost to Quintana at 147 once.

            Paul Williams only ever struggled against southpaws.
            Southpaws aren't used to fighting other southpaws.

            I think he beats all of them and stops most at that.
            (Already brutalised Mitchell already not long after Floyd did)

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              #36
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Paul Williams only ever struggled against southpaws.
              Southpaws aren't used to fighting other southpaws.

              I think he beats all of them and stops most at that.
              (Already brutalised Mitchell already not long after Floyd did)
              I suggest you watch that fight again Williams had some issues with Mitchell~

              Also after Margarito he fought mostly against southpaws, Quintana X2, Martinez X2, Winky, Lara, Kolle.

              That is 7 out of 10 fights~ Cintron, Verno Phillips, and Ishida would be the orthodox guys~
              Last edited by The Gambler1981; 02-28-2013, 08:49 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                Guerrero would stand a good chance of beating Williams as well~ if you want to include him

                As much as I like Guerrero, no. Williams destroys him.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Guerrero would stand a good chance of beating Williams as well~ if you want to include him
                  Guerrero isn't a counterpuncher, but he could make it a rough fight. I personally wasn't very impressed with his performances against Aydin and Berto. Many people here were claiming that Aydin was a much better win for him than Berto; I even made a thread a while ago which confirms this:
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                  And that win seemed to have lost some luster after Soto-Karass virtually shutout Aydin.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    I suggest you watch that fight again Williams had some issues with Mitchell~

                    That is a joke, right?

                    He absolutely destroyed, embarrassed and retired Mitchell.

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                      #40





                      Total dominance and just about as one-sided as you could possibly get.

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