Mayweather's 147-154 resume

[ThePunchingBag]

Pac's style is all wrong for Cotto at any weight.

Only Pac, Trinidad and Cotto have a shot at going through undefeated.

Pac gets KO'd by JMM 25% of the time.

[The Gambler1981]

I love head-to-head fantasy fights where everyone has seen the fighters involved multiple times and can make educated opinions as to the outcome. I think a lot of these match-ups are interesting and debatable so I wanna see what people say.

Example: How do you think these would have gone?

Margarito (2007-08) vs. De la Hoya (2007) at 154
Pacquiao vs Cotto (2012) at 154
Cotto (2012) vs De La Hoya (2007) at 154

De La Hoya destroys Margarito, maybe worse than Mosley as I feel he has better power and is a better boxer~

Pacquiao always beats Cotto, Cotto always has problem when his pace is pushed.

Pretty sure Oscar would handle Cotto but I do think Cotto would have his moments as that would be more his type of fight but I do think Oscar is just flat out better at most things and bigger.

[BafanaBafana]

Pac's style is all wrong for Cotto at any weight.

Only Pac, Trinidad and Cotto have a shot at going through undefeated.

Pac gets KO'd by JMM 25% of the time.

Who do you think Paul Williams loses to? I personally think he beats just about everyone based on superior stamina and workrate. He's toughest fights might be Oscar and Cotto, but I don't either could counter-punch him effectively. They're best shot would be cutting the distance and throw combinations to the body.

[HeroBando]

Cotto fought probably as good as I've ever seen against Mayweather. In fact, I think it's arguably his greatest performance. Nonetheless, Pac would always beat Cotto. The Pac that fought Marquez would still beat Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and Clottey just as easily as he did then.



Absolutely. No one else was drained. Cotto was fine. Margarito was just shot at that stage and though he struggled mightily to make weight, it wouldn't
have made the slightest difference. He could have made weight the best ever and it still wouldn't have changed anything. He was shot to ****.

However, Oscar was done. I think it's arguably the worst case of weight drained I've ever seen.

I agree with most of this, but please explain how Marg was shot? What did you see in that ring that made you think that? Weak chin, bad stamina, gunshy? Or did he not bring his legendary reflexes to the show?

[The Gambler1981]

Williams was made to look rather foolish by a decent boxer in Quintana.

JMM
Oscar
Cotto
Mosley
And I would say Judah given Williams big problem with southpaws

All would stand a fair shot at beating Williams.

[ИATAS]

Lol @ people thinking flabby 154 pound Cotto is some monster that would beat Pacquiao. Just because he added a few pounds of fat around his mid section means nothing.

[BafanaBafana]

Williams was made to look rather foolish by a decent boxer in Quintana.

JMM
Oscar
Cotto
Mosley
And I would say Judah given Williams big problem with southpaws

All would stand a fair shot at beating Williams.

I don't the (2009) 135 JMM could move up and beat a prime Williams at 147. Also I think Williams 6'2 would have probably used his reach against the much shorter Marquez (see: Williams v. Margarito, Rds 1-6). I could see Marquez keeping his hands up and occasionally trying to counterpunch P.Will but falling short or trying to cut the ring and go to the body like he did against the taller, long armed Floyd. I see P.Will keeping Marquez on the defensive (remember, he can throw 110+ per round from the 1st to the 12th) and winning a wide decision.

Mosley would have probably lost wide on points because of workrate (he's workrate against Floyd was very poor), but I can see him occasionally landing a hard right on Williams.

Judah (2006) was coming off a Baldomir loss and I always felt he was too small for welterweight and unlike Mayweather his defence and stamina made him less able to compete against more phycally prominent fighters (Cotto, Baldomir, Clottey, etc.) I think P.Will could possibly ran him over worse than he did Quintana in the rematch. However, if Judah can survive the first rounds (or P.Will starts slow) then he can maybe create some problems because style (counterpunchering southpaw) but even then he's reach is too small and he doesn't have the power to hurt P. Will. He might keep it somewhat competitive for the first six rounds and the break thereafter.

Cotto and Oscar would pose more problems but they would have trouble with P.Will's stamina and workrate (both guys are/were known for poor stamina and/or giving up championship rounds especially at that point in their careers). I could see both losing competitive decisions; possibly losing the fight in the championship rounds.

[4Corners]

Paul Williams always does great in fantasy fights.....nevermind that he lost to Quintana at 147 once.

[Pacquiao'd]

That nyukka bush still on PWills dck

[The Gambler1981]

I don't the (2009) 135 JMM could move up and beat a prime Williams at 147. Also I think Williams 6'2 would have probably used his reach against the much shorter Marquez (see: Williams v. Margarito, Rds 1-6). I could see Marquez keeping his hands up and occasionally trying to counterpunch P.Will but falling short or trying to cut the ring and go to the body like he did against the taller, long armed Floyd. I see P.Will keeping Marquez on the defensive (remember, he can throw 110+ per round from the 1st to the 12th) and winning a wide decision.

Mosley would have probably lost wide on points because of workrate (he's workrate against Floyd was very poor), but I can see him occasionally landing a hard right on Williams.

Judah (2006) was coming off a Baldomir loss and I always felt he was too small for welterweight and unlike Mayweather his defence and stamina made him less able to compete against more phycally prominent fighters (Cotto, Baldomir, Clottey, etc.) I think P.Will could possibly ran him over worse than he did Quintana in the rematch. However, if Judah can survive the first rounds (or P.Will starts slow) then he can maybe create some problems because style (counterpunchering southpaw) but even then he's reach is too small and he doesn't have the power to hurt P. Will. He might keep it somewhat competitive for the first six rounds and the break thereafter.

Cotto and Oscar would pose more problems but they would have trouble with P.Will's stamina and workrate (both guys are/were known for poor stamina and/or giving up championship rounds especially at that point in their careers). I could see both losing competitive decisions; possibly losing the fight in the championship rounds.

I think all those guys are as good or better than the Quintana Williams lost to, which was the next fight after he beat Margarito. Williams is a good fighter and he would not lose all those fights, but all those guys at those points could beat the best Williams and at the very least make him look very beatable.