Donaire-Rigo Press Conference Stream

[Russian Crushin]

margarito is one dimensional

Name that dimension

[Russian Crushin]

well donaire has lost so i don't understand what that means and donaire only has about 3 fights tha mean anything even tho he has about 3 times as many fights as rigondeaux

I meant "arent"

[Russian Crushin]

But you said this:




Rahman, the lesser skilled fighter, the lesser technically sound fighter and who defeated the lesser fighters defeated Lennox Lewis.

So the more skilled fighter isn't the one that wins the fight all the time.

Yes in that fight, it proves he was the more skilled fighter

[Russian Crushin]

I see, your problem is that you don't understand the definition of the word "skill." There is no way in bloody hell anyone can reasonably say Margarito is a more skilled fighter than Guillermo Rigondeaux. No way. A guy like Margarito has had success in great part due to his granite chin. In theory, a guy that punches hard and can walk through countless punches will win every fight, or nearly every fight. That doesn't make him any more skilled than your average Neanderthal. Rigondeaux is in another universe of skill compared to Margarito. My goodness....

Define skill for me then

[dan_cov]

Just because a guy lands the perfect punch does not mean he is the most skilled fighter overall.

Now I am not saying getting into position and having timing isn't a skill.

[-PBP-]

Yes in that fight, it proves he was the more skilled fighter

So Rahman had more skills in his arsenal than Lewis when he beat him. Then had less skills in his arsenal when he lost to him.

What skills did he lose in a matter of months to all of the sudden being more skilled than the best heavyweight in the world to being less skilled than him?

And what skills did Lennox acquire in a matter of months to go from being the lesser skilled fighter to the greater skilled fighter?

[Russian Crushin]

So Rahman had more skills in his arsenal than Lewis when he beat him. Then had less skills in his arsenal when he lost to him.

What skills did he lose in a matter of months to all of the sudden being more skilled than the best heavyweight in the world to being less skilled than him?

And what skills did Lennox acquire in a matter of months to go from being the lesser skilled fighter to the greater skilled fighter?

Rahman proved in that fight for that time to be more skilled. Like i said still isnt 1 attribute, it is everything that allows you to win

[CubanGuyNYC]

Define skill for me then

Below are two definitions of the word skill, taken from thefreedictionary.com. The highlights and comment in parentheses are mine.

skill (skl)
n.
1. Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience. See Synonyms at ability.
2.
a. An art, trade, or technique, particularly one requiring use of the hands or body.
b. A developed talent or ability: writing skills. (or boxing skills)

skill [skɪl]
n
1. special ability in a task, sport, etc., esp ability acquired by training
2. something, esp a trade or technique, requiring special training or manual proficiency

[Russian Crushin]

Below are two definitions of the word skill, taken from thefreedictionary.com. The highlights and comment in parentheses are mine.

skill (skl)
n.
1. Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience. See Synonyms at ability.
2.
a. An art, trade, or technique, particularly one requiring use of the hands or body.
b. A developed talent or ability: writing skills. (or boxing skills)

skill [skɪl]
n
1. special ability in a task, sport, etc., esp ability acquired by training
2. something, esp a trade or technique, requiring special training or manual proficiency

So you cant give me the definition of skill in boxing so you used a dictionary

How about giving one that applies to boxing cuz marg has all of those

[-PBP-]

Rahman proved in that fight for that time to be more skilled. Like i said still isnt 1 attribute, it is everything that allows you to win

LOL...No. Skills are abilities and tools. Things that you learn in training or with experience and add to your arsenal to make you a better fighter. Just because Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis, that didn't make him the "more skilled" fighter which means the fighter that has the more skills (tools and abilities) in his arsenal. Lennox was still the better outside fighter, he still possessed the better jab, he could fight inside where he would land his uppercut, the list goes on.

No matter how you try to twist it, Lennox Lewis is the more skilled fighter than Hasim Rahman. On the night he got knocked out, Lewis got careless and Rahman was able to measure him up and put himself in position to land his right hand. That doesn't make him the more skilled fighter. It has nothing to do with Rahman having more skills than Lennox Lewis. Never in his career did he have more skills than Lennox Lewis. His only chance at winning that fight was to get in good position to land that one big shot.

And plus, there's things you can't teach like heart, will, determination, discipline, etc. that can separate the good fighters from the great fighters.

There's so many factors that play a role in determining how boxing matches are won other than skill.