Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux Has No Issue With Donaire's VADA Request

[537Bwouaye]

they had it awhile back this was well known....but rigo is only asking for the spanish version now? why is that? why postpone signing the vada contract? to clean out his system? delay testing?

Well known where? In the bed you share with Nonito? I'm not joking... you're the only one talking about this for some time now. So Rigo had the contract in his hands for a whileeeeeeeee, aight I believe you, but who said that? You? Nonito? All credible sources if you ask me lol

Lmao @ Rigo trying to "postpone" his tests for a !!!BIG WEEK!!! in order to clean his system hahah go to school, learn a few things and come back to us bro

[vacon04]

The pellets were slow releasing and got caught by CIR but they were in Petersons system at the time of the test and wouldn't have been detected without the CIR test

Bertos case was a case of contamination since the nandrolone was so minute

Well that's exactly what I'm saying, VADA has way more sensitive procedures like CIR (Carbon Isotope Ratio test) and some others to detect banned substances.

About the nandrolone I also agree that most likely it was a case of contamination, very similar to what happened to Salido some time ago when he tested positive for nandrolone and then took the test again and then tested negative.

This isn't just as simple as delaying a test for a week to be sure that you're not going to test positive.

EDIT: I made a thread a few months ago explaining a little bit more about nandrolone and specifically of why I think Salido didn't use nandrolone as a PED.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495932

[MJ223]

Well that's exactly what I'm saying, VADA has way more sensitive procedures like CIR (Carbon Isotope Ratio test) and some others to detect banned substances.

About the nandrolone I also agree that most likely it was a case of contamination, very similar to what happened to Salido some time ago when he tested positive for nandrolone and then took the test again and then tested negative.

This isn't just as simple as delaying a test for a week to be sure that you're not going to test positive.

I understand your stance.....

Though I don't agree with that sentiment about hes waiting to make sure hes clean I can say I don't know for certain and am not really sure about any fighter in the sport or athlete for that matter that they are 100% clean.... Plus boxing fans are the biggest conspiracy theorist in the world

My take on this whole fiasco is that with the biggest fight of his life Team Rigo are dragging their feet

[vacon04]

I understand your stance.....

Though I don't agree with that sentiment about hes waiting to make sure hes clean I can say I don't know for certain and am not really sure about any fighter in the sport or athlete for that matter that they are 100% clean.... Plus boxing fans are the biggest conspiracy theorist in the world

My take on this whole fiasco is that with the biggest fight of his life Team Rigo are dragging their feet

Yeah, I'm not defending Rigondeaux nor saying that he's clean, the truth is that I don't know, maybe he's using PEDs or maybe he's not but all I'm saying is that some guys here are posting things like if they were experts when the truth is that is not so simple as they seem to think it is.

[Russian Crushin]

Yeah, I'm not defending Rigondeaux nor saying that he's clean, the truth is that I don't know, maybe he's using PEDs or maybe he's not but all I'm saying is that some guys here are posting things like if they were experts when the truth is that is not so simple as they seem to think it is.

You're posting like you're an expert on it

Point is that he should have signed it a week ago and have been getting tested

[vacon04]

You're posting like you're an expert on it

Point is that he should have signed it a week ago and have been getting tested

No expert, but I'm an engineer in biotechnology so I know a few things about biology and pharmaceuticals (especially about biopharmaceuticals and hormones like testosterone) so I know it's a lot more complicated than just "delaying things for a week to clean out your system"

[DoktorSleepless]

No expert, but I'm an engineer in biotechnology so I know a few things about biology and pharmaceuticals (especially about biopharmaceuticals and hormones like testosterone) so I know it's a lot more complicated than just "delaying things for a week to clean out your system"

Testing is less effective at catching cheaters the smaller the time period is. It's that simple.

[The Tase]

I understand your stance.....

Though I don't agree with that sentiment about hes waiting to make sure hes clean I can say I don't know for certain and am not really sure about any fighter in the sport or athlete for that matter that they are 100% clean.... Plus boxing fans are the biggest conspiracy theorist in the world

My take on this whole fiasco is that with the biggest fight of his life Team Rigo are dragging their feet

+1.

First it was a problem with his side promoters squabbling and rigo not signing until arum fixes it, now its "i need a contract in english" bull crap before i agree to drug testing.

as if he doesnt have people who can read in english.

GTFO with that bull****.

[vacon04]

Testing is less effective at catching cheaters the smaller the time period is. It's that simple.

No it's not, some hormones stay in the body for several months after it's been used (well actually traces of that hormone and/or metabolites that were produced as a result of the use of that hormone) ... In that case it doesn't matter if a boxer had 1 week or 2 months of testing, he's going to get caught anyway.

[537Bwouaye]

No expert, but I'm an engineer in biotechnology so I know a few things about biology and pharmaceuticals (especially about bio pharmaceuticals like hormones like testosterone) so I know it's a lot more complicated than just "delaying things for a week to clean out your system"

Lol @ "No expert, I'm just an engineer in biotechnology".

My younger bro is studying the same thing btw. He completed a bachelor in biochemistry or something like that but he wants to add that other bachelor in biotechnology engineering to his resume, he says there's hot jobs for people with these two papers... I would've chosen a master in the same field or an mba but I guess he knows better lol