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I posted a few answers on a past thread about this subject, and I thought it would be good to make a small investigation about Salido vs Guerrero doping issue.
Now, I know that a lot of guys don’t care about this anymore, but maybe this small research can help to clarify a lot of doubts about steroids, in this case specifically about nandrolone.
So here are some key points to begin:
*Salido fought against Robert Guerrero the 4th of November of 2006, with Salido getting a UD win over Guerrero.
*After the fight Salido tested positive for nandrolone, a steroid mainly used to improve strength and durability. However, after Salido found out that he tested positive, he immediately had a second test with Labcorp, a recognized blood laboratory in the US, and that second test came negative for nandrolone.
Now a lot of wrong information has been said in the forum, so I’m going to try to answer most of the frequently asked questions and also to correct most wrong arguments that people say.
1. What’s the detection time of nandrolone?
Well it depends, so since I don’t have enough information to say what kind of nandrolone Salido used other than ‘nandrolone’ I’ll say one year for nandrolone phenylpropionate or a year and a half for nandrolone decanoate. Now it could be also a lot less time, but still nandrolone is a drug that is excreted extremely slowly and that’s why is hard to avoid being caught when using this drug.
2. Can nandrolone be detected during the first test, and then disappear from the body some days after that first test?
First of all, the nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, but it actually tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone.
Now, could these metabolites disappear? It could happen, but that would be highly unlikely because of the detection times mentioned. It could happen that for example he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but as I’ve said, this is extremely unlikely.
3. Is nandrolone present in the body even without using steroids?
According to a study made by the Swiss Anti-Doping Laboratory, the body produces extremely low quan****** of nandrolone. In a study performed to 126 students who didn’t exercise themselves, all 126 of them had a level of nandrolone below 0.2 ng/ml.
Below 0.2 ng/ml = 126/126 = 100%
Above 0.2 ng/ml = 0/126 = 0%
4. So what’s the limit to get a positive result from the steroid test?
The limit established by WADA is 2.0 ng/ml.
5. But what about exercise, could that affect the nandrolone production to get above 2.0 ng/ml?
According also to that same study, that’s highly unlikely. They tested 358 professional athletes before and after doing competitive level exercise and only 3 out of the 358 tested athletes were above the 2.0 ng/ml established by the WADA. But as the urine specific gravity also is taken into consideration, they make a certain correction to get accurate results, so in the end after applying the correction only 1 out of the 358 athletes got a result above the allowed limit by WADA.
Below 2.0 limit by WADA = 357/358 = 99.7%
Above 2.0 limit by WADA = 1/358 = .3%
Now this is not something definitive, this is only a small research I made by using scientific publications and studies, but I thought it could be helpful to understand a little better how this steroid works and what’s the truth behind it.
Was Salido on roids? IDK, you can make your conclusion, but after reading this information you could change your mind.
Now, I know that a lot of guys don’t care about this anymore, but maybe this small research can help to clarify a lot of doubts about steroids, in this case specifically about nandrolone.
So here are some key points to begin:
*Salido fought against Robert Guerrero the 4th of November of 2006, with Salido getting a UD win over Guerrero.
*After the fight Salido tested positive for nandrolone, a steroid mainly used to improve strength and durability. However, after Salido found out that he tested positive, he immediately had a second test with Labcorp, a recognized blood laboratory in the US, and that second test came negative for nandrolone.
Now a lot of wrong information has been said in the forum, so I’m going to try to answer most of the frequently asked questions and also to correct most wrong arguments that people say.
1. What’s the detection time of nandrolone?
Well it depends, so since I don’t have enough information to say what kind of nandrolone Salido used other than ‘nandrolone’ I’ll say one year for nandrolone phenylpropionate or a year and a half for nandrolone decanoate. Now it could be also a lot less time, but still nandrolone is a drug that is excreted extremely slowly and that’s why is hard to avoid being caught when using this drug.
2. Can nandrolone be detected during the first test, and then disappear from the body some days after that first test?
First of all, the nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, but it actually tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone.
Now, could these metabolites disappear? It could happen, but that would be highly unlikely because of the detection times mentioned. It could happen that for example he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but as I’ve said, this is extremely unlikely.
3. Is nandrolone present in the body even without using steroids?
According to a study made by the Swiss Anti-Doping Laboratory, the body produces extremely low quan****** of nandrolone. In a study performed to 126 students who didn’t exercise themselves, all 126 of them had a level of nandrolone below 0.2 ng/ml.
Below 0.2 ng/ml = 126/126 = 100%
Above 0.2 ng/ml = 0/126 = 0%
4. So what’s the limit to get a positive result from the steroid test?
The limit established by WADA is 2.0 ng/ml.
5. But what about exercise, could that affect the nandrolone production to get above 2.0 ng/ml?
According also to that same study, that’s highly unlikely. They tested 358 professional athletes before and after doing competitive level exercise and only 3 out of the 358 tested athletes were above the 2.0 ng/ml established by the WADA. But as the urine specific gravity also is taken into consideration, they make a certain correction to get accurate results, so in the end after applying the correction only 1 out of the 358 athletes got a result above the allowed limit by WADA.
Below 2.0 limit by WADA = 357/358 = 99.7%
Above 2.0 limit by WADA = 1/358 = .3%
Now this is not something definitive, this is only a small research I made by using scientific publications and studies, but I thought it could be helpful to understand a little better how this steroid works and what’s the truth behind it.
Was Salido on roids? IDK, you can make your conclusion, but after reading this information you could change your mind.