Nigel Benn: "I wish I had Calzaghe's power"

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  • edgarg
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    #81
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    He was probably embarrassed about getting dropped against Calzaghe. He was well past his best & came down from cruiserweight on just over a weeks notice!

    Why wouldn't we know? Most boxers talk a right load of bull**** to save face

    He probably thought somebody from the audience threw a wet flannel in his face. Calzaghe had poor power!

    Video evidence & hundreds of thousands of witnesses & just about everyone Calzaghe fought>>Drained, shot, senile Eubanks word.
    Ahem... he came down from light- heavyweight at about 2 weeks notice. I saw a Eubank video some time ago, talking about that fight and he spent a minute or more talking about Calzaghe's power. From seeing pictures of the damage, I know that Calzaghe ruined his hands years ago.

    Unless they had been badly malnourished when babies, they ruin their hands from hitting, sometimes improperly. If they didn't become heavy punching boxers, they'd likely never find out.

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      #82
      Originally posted by edgarg
      I don't know what you two are "hahaing about anyway. Eubank said almost the same thing. Eubank had a massive chin and was dropped 3 times in over 50 fights, of which two were by Calzaghe.

      AND...... He could just as easily have said "I wish I had Joe Louis' power"..or "George Foreman's power"... He was reminiscing.
      eubank was dropped by watson, benn, collins, and calzaghe. basically most of the good fighters he fought. his chin is overrated. he was also weight drained beyond belief in the fight against calzaghe. is ward a big puncher because he ko'd dawson?

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      • studentofthegam
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        #83
        Keep ****tin on Joe all you want. He hit hard enough in volume. Everyone keeps showing these clips and never watch a whole fight. Some of these guys had been dazed many times before the stoppages. Thats when its when its most dangerous for fighters. No he didn't hit harder than Benn but there ain't many that could. Yes some stoppages were premature but there is no denying that he was dominating all of them.

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          #84
          Punchy ass nigga don't even know what he's saying anymore.

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          • S. Saddler 1310
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            #85
            Originally posted by daggum
            eubank was dropped by watson, benn, collins, and calzaghe. basically most of the good fighters he fought. his chin is overrated.
            not to defend Calzaghe here, because this thread is silly, but to speak up for Eubank.

            did you see the Benn knockdown? it owed more to Chris' splayed stance at the moment Benn hit him (on the back of the head) than anything. he jumped straight back up unhurt and remonstrated with the official. Eubank took much bigger shots flush on the jaw in that fight and stayed erect.

            did you watch the fight in which 'Bank was put down by Watson? he took tremendous sustained punishment to both head and body before finally being forced down. majority of men would have fallen and been done considerably before that point. yet Eubank was still able to drop Watson heavily immediately after rising from the canvas.

            did you see the Calzaghe knockdown? Eubank's chin was in the air and he was caught flush on it while squared up and moving backward awkwardly. he leaped up clearly unhurt.

            did you see the Collins knockdown? it was a bodyshot that did it, a right to the chest when 'Bank was square on. Chris leaped up without much distress and immediately rallied back and rocked Collins with hard shots.

            you could study the man's career and watch the fights instead of just googling to find out which ones he was dropped in.

            anyone can be knocked down. that shouldn't automatically raise questions over their chin. the circumstances should be examined. what kind of knockdown was it? did he rise groggily or was he unhurt?

            few men took headshots like 'Bank. he was taking huge shots while way past his best and massively outweighed by Carl Thompson, shots he couldn't see coming because of a swollen eye. his ability to absorb multiple power shots within a fight (sometimes within a single round) that individually would have hurt or KO'd most contenders was extraordinary.
            there is nothing overrated about his chin. i would say that it's underrated outside the UK, but it's more that Eubank is just largely unknown to American fight-fans except for passing familiarity with his name.

            if 'Bank had any vulnerability to punches, it was to the body, and even that wasn't so pronounced as to be a major weakness.



            a favourite example of Chris' ability to take a shot, a Frazier/Ali-like leaping left hook he ate early in the 10th round of the rematch with Benn:



            vast majority of fighters go down from that shot. Eubank's chin was as legit as they come. his style was the type of style that sometimes left him prone to balance-related knockdowns (like Hamed after him).
            Last edited by S. Saddler 1310; 02-02-2013, 09:51 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by S. Saddler 1310
              not to defend Calzaghe here, because this thread is silly, but to speak up for Eubank.

              did you see the Benn knockdown? it owed more to Chris' splayed stance at the moment Benn hit him (on the back of the head) than anything. he jumped straight back up unhurt and remonstrated with the official. Eubank took much bigger shots flush on the jaw in that fight and stayed erect.

              did you watch the fight in which 'Bank was put down by Watson? he took tremendous sustained punishment to both head and body before finally being forced down. majority of men would have fallen and been done considerably before that point. yet Eubank was still able to drop Watson heavily immediately after rising from the canvas.

              did you see the Calzaghe knockdown? Eubank's chin was in the air and he was caught flush on it while squared up and moving backward awkwardly. he leaped up clearly unhurt.

              did you see the Collins knockdown? it was a bodyshot that did it, a right to the chest when 'Bank was square on. Chris leaped up without much distress and immediately rallied back and rocked Collins with hard shots.

              you could watch the fights instead of just googling to find out which fights Eubank was dropped in.

              anyone can be knocked down. that shouldn't automatically raise questions over their chin. the circumstances should be examined. what kind of knockdown was it? did he rise groggily or was he unhurt?

              few men took headshots like 'Bank. he was taking huge shots while way past his best and massively outweighed by Carl Thompson, shots he couldn't see coming because of a swollen eye. there is nothing overrated about his chin. if anything, it's not so much underrated, but just largely unknown outside the UK. his ability to absorb multiple power shots within a fight (sometimes within a single round) that individually would have hurt or KO'd most contenders was extraordinary.

              if 'Bank had any vulnerability to punches, it was to the body, and even that wasn't so pronounced as to be a major weakness.



              a favourite example of Chris' ability to take a shot, a Frazier/Ali-like leaping left hook he ate early in the 10th round of the rematch with Benn:



              vast majority of fighters go down from that shot. Eubank's chin was as legit as they come. his style was the top of style that sometimes left him prone to balance-related knockdowns (like Hamed after him).
              Very good post.

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                #87
                Originally posted by sunny31
                There are plenty of testimonials from fighters saying Calzaghe was heavy handed, far more than they imagined. The Calzaghe hand problems are not a myth either, look at Calzaghe's overal punching technique against Eubank and then immediately watch the Jones fight, you'll see a huge difference in how much a young Joe sat down on his punches, he still cuffed and threw combinations, but he sat down and threw with more power, towards the end of his career he was much more about touching his opponent and getting out.

                Byron Mitchell and Charles Brewer have lots of experience, during those times they sparred or fought everyone, and Mitchell said he had never been hit so hard so often. In terms of this thread I think Benn was being sarcastic, it was a joke.

                Calzaghe haters do need to get over it though, he was a great fighter.
                This is a good post, it's not the fact Calzaghe had above average power it's just the fact he landed so many so often and obviously some would hurt.. The reason Eubanks bigs his punches up so much is because he was hit so often.. But then if Calzaghe landed so cleanly and often in the fight why didn't he ko Eubank?i guess nobody around hear cares about what Hopkins( one of Calzaghes most recent opponents) has to say about power...

                I can bet my house that Calzaghe although he obviously felt Hopkins power would never admit to being hurt by Hopkins or jones .. Pity he's not that humble, everyone knows Eubank is a bit insane ,, it's probably his way of being humble
                Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 02-02-2013, 10:04 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by S. Saddler 1310
                  not to defend Calzaghe here, because this thread is silly, but to speak up for Eubank.

                  did you see the Benn knockdown? it owed more to Chris' splayed stance at the moment Benn hit him (on the back of the head) than anything. he jumped straight back up unhurt and remonstrated with the official. Eubank took much bigger shots flush on the jaw in that fight and stayed erect.

                  did you watch the fight in which 'Bank was put down by Watson? he took tremendous sustained punishment to both head and body before finally being forced down. majority of men would have fallen and been done considerably before that point. yet Eubank was still able to drop Watson heavily immediately after rising from the canvas.

                  did you see the Calzaghe knockdown? Eubank's chin was in the air and he was caught flush on it while squared up and moving backward awkwardly. he leaped up clearly unhurt.

                  did you see the Collins knockdown? it was a bodyshot that did it, a right to the chest when 'Bank was square on. Chris leaped up without much distress and immediately rallied back and rocked Collins with hard shots.

                  you could study the man's career and watch the fights instead of just googling to find out which ones he was dropped in.

                  anyone can be knocked down. that shouldn't automatically raise questions over their chin. the circumstances should be examined. what kind of knockdown was it? did he rise groggily or was he unhurt?

                  few men took headshots like 'Bank. he was taking huge shots while way past his best and massively outweighed by Carl Thompson, shots he couldn't see coming because of a swollen eye. his ability to absorb multiple power shots within a fight (sometimes within a single round) that individually would have hurt or KO'd most contenders was extraordinary.
                  there is nothing overrated about his chin. i would say that it's underrated outside the UK, but it's more that Eubank is just largely unknown to American fight-fans except for passing familiarity with his name.

                  if 'Bank had any vulnerability to punches, it was to the body, and even that wasn't so pronounced as to be a major weakness.



                  a favourite example of Chris' ability to take a shot, a Frazier/Ali-like leaping left hook he ate early in the 10th round of the rematch with Benn:



                  vast majority of fighters go down from that shot. Eubank's chin was as legit as they come. his style was the type of style that sometimes left him prone to balance-related knockdowns (like Hamed after him).
                  Good stuff educating people about the legend that is Eubank .. Anyone that hasn't watched much of him should really invest their time and at least watch the first fight with Benn

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    eubank was dropped by watson, benn, collins, and calzaghe. basically most of the good fighters he fought. his chin is overrated. he was also weight drained beyond belief in the fight against calzaghe. is ward a big puncher because he ko'd dawson?
                    I don't like Calzaghes decisions to duck,slap and fight past it fighters as much as the next guy but don't **** on Eubank in the process...

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                    • daggum
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Col. Hans Landa
                      I don't like Calzaghes decisions to duck,slap and fight past it fighters as much as the next guy but don't **** on Eubank in the process...
                      everything i said was true. sorry reality doesn't sit well with you. should we talk about all the gift decisions he got?

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