Dan Rafael thinks Vitali Klitschko beats the heavyweight greats of the past. (link)

[ShamrockXpress]

People forget the klitschkos have fought the best available opponents, after Lewis vitali destroyed kirk Johnson, he wernt much of a fighter but he was lewis' original opponent for the night he fought vitlali and he was viewed as a decent defence, then Lewis retired so vitali was made the top guy in the division. He then fought the number 2 in the division corrie sanders who had just destroyed wlad. Then he fought Danny Williams who had just stopped Tyson only one fight removed from fighting Lewis in what is seen as a big win for Lennox. After his hiatus he returned and dismantled Sam Peter who was viewed as one of the top guys after destroying maskaev. After that he's fought anyone who his brother hasn't, he had a fight scheduled with haye just for him to pull out, he publicly called out valuev only for him to retire, he offered haye a fight in Moscow for him to refuse on the grounds of his race, if vitali is only gonna have one more fight I don't blame him for wanting to go out on his own terms and not want to concede anything to a broken toed pu$$y like haye. He should fight him in England ? Why ? So haye can pull either another stinker and not trade, or try and pot shot and run like he did against valuev and hope for some help from the judges

[tonyjones]

How about those that exaggerate the talents of athletes from the present?

Poet

Yeah people are quick to hype an athletes talent now but most people can see that it's not true but when its an athlete from the past its taken as gospel and your almost frowned upon for saying otherwise....for instance a lot of fight fans won't accept the possibility that maybe ray Robinson is not the goat

[BattlingNelson]

Yeah people are quick to hype an athletes talent now but most people can see that it's not true but when its an athlete from the past its taken as gospel and your almost frowned upon for saying otherwise....for instance a lot of fight fans won't accept the possibility that maybe ray Robinson is not the goat

If not Robinson then who?

[Ray Corso]

It would be easier to see that Sugsr Ray was and is the best fighter to date if you knew how to evaluate talent to begin with. Since everyone here clearly doesn't know when a fighter is giving away his punches why bother to try to explain all the tangables! Comparing a record and common oppents is all everyone here has because they don't know form and technique!
With newer generations its impossible for them to see beyond their immediate eyes. To look deeper you need knowledge of the subject there on to its own is the problem! To think that a Klitz Bros is an ATG pro boxer is unbelievable to me yet thats whats preached by more than enough on this board. Methods, Form & Technique is how to break down a fighter, if you have NO clue about these three functions then you have no clue about a fighters particular talents! Its as simple as that!! dumb azz!! Ray.

[slimshandy69]

vitali would destroy any heavy weight dans right

[DreamFighter]

vitali would destroy any heavy weight dans right

especially since there are middling middleweights that have destroyed Vitali

[Simurgh]

especially since there are middling middleweights that have destroyed Vitali

Out of 217 posts you wrote, 216 are about klitschkos.. LOL!

[revs1227]

i agree vitali has a shot he is very underrated

[JAB5239]

If not Robinson then who?

1. Sam Langford
2. Harry Greb
3. Ray Robinson

Just my opinion of course.

[DreamFighter]

Out of 217 posts you wrote, 216 are about klitschkos.. LOL!

most of them are replies to you, but that dont mean i love you, dont get your hopes up.


the clue is in the word 'replies'. I gotta answer you.