Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
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Why does Goldenboy always screw over Matthysse and Maidana?
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Originally posted by Southpawology View PostWho said guerrero ducked maidana? Guerrero did say though after he recovered from his injury he still wanted to fight maidana but it never happend. So getting hugged/clinched for 10 rounds= destroyed? lol. Dropping and then getting a TKO in round 8 vs karass= barely surviving? lol.
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Originally posted by Zyzz View Postnot sure what you're even talking about , either you have a short memory or really dont know what the hell you're talking about....
maidana has been given numerous opportunities, and came up short, especially against khan and morales
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Originally posted by WarMaidana View PostThese guys are two of the most entertaining fan friendly fighters out there. If they were marketed correct they could bring in big HBO ratings... not ppv but solid main event HBO card ratings. Instead they favor bums like Garcia, Khan and Paulie. I know there is not as big of an argentine fan base but still.... do you guys not see this? I know there are a lot of good gb fighters in similar weight classes but i think itd almost be better for these guys to be on top rank based on the way gb givesthem the short end of the stick
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Originally posted by Southpawology View PostOrtiz/Maidana wasnt exciting? Maidana/Khan wasnt exciting? Maidana/Morales wasnt exciting? Maidana/Karass wasnt exciting? He's been in a **** load of FOTY type fights.
Look I can do the same thing.
Personally I dont find khan exciting. Jab,jab,right hand, Get hurt and turn into bambi on ice, run backwards.
Personally I dont find malignaggi exciting. Jab,Jab,jab,jab, clinch. Jab,jab,jab,jab, clinch.
But whatever floats your boat.
Ortiz vs Maidana was exciting. Maidana vs Khan only got exciting when Slowdana landed that right hand he threw from somewhere in the back row.
Lets not lie rounds 2-9/10 was boring, the whole audience was asleep until he landed that shot.
The Morales fight was mediocre, it was only remotely interesting because only Maidana could make the great Morales look like he still had a lot to give.
The Karass fight was very good up until the rather premature stoppage, bit of an anti-climax.
I am sure if I could be ar5ed I could spin it and say Khan & Malignaggi have been in half a dozen or more FOTY type fights.
As soon as he steps up its just non-effective aggression. If you don't stand infront of him he is left clueless. He is one of the most unskilled pro boxers I've ever seen. He has no jab, no head movement, hes slow, he cant cut a ring off, he can not put a combination together.
Most overrated fighter of the last decade.
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Maidana deserved the mayweather shot more than ortiz. Ortiz didn't even avenge his humiliating loss to Maidana and went on to get the Mayweather shot. Maidana would ice berto as well, if that's what qualified ortiz more than Maidana. Be real dan_cov and others. Styles make fights, but Maidana could ice anyone on a good day.
I see Matts as being swept under the rug as well. They don't invest as much in the argentines.
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Originally posted by Syf View PostMaidana deserved the mayweather shot more than ortiz. Ortiz didn't even avenge his humiliating loss to Maidana and went on to get the Mayweather shot. Maidana would ice berto as well, if that's what qualified ortiz more than Maidana. Be real dan_cov and others. Styles make fights, but Maidana could ice anyone on a good day.
I see Matts as being swept under the rug as well. They don't invest as much in the argentines.
He couldn't ice anybody worth a damn on his best day. His best win, his only half decent win is Victor Ortiz!
He is as overrated as you can get.
He will knock over a few more cans and when he steps again, he will lose in one-sided fashion. I really do believe there maybe 15-20 guys at welter who would beat him. Hes C level.
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Seriously how many of the following welterweights does he clearly beat?
Floyd
Manny
Berto
Chaves
Bundu
Alexander
Guerrero
Marquez
Brook
Abregu
Bradley
Lopez
Zaveck
Jones
Bailey
Decarie
Malignaggi
Heerden
I think he has a 50/50 against maybe half a dozen and loses the rest. The guy is painfully overrated and seriously limited.
Half a dozen guys with different styles he'd be lucky too win a round against.
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Originally posted by dan_cov View PostSeriously how many of the following welterweights does he clearly beat?
Floyd
Manny
Berto
Chaves
Bundu
Alexander
Guerrero
Marquez
Brook
Abregu
Bradley
Lopez
Zaveck
Jones
Bailey
Decarie
Malignaggi
Heerden
I think he has a 50/50 against maybe half a dozen and loses the rest. The guy is painfully overrated and seriously limited.
Half a dozen guys with different styles he'd be lucky too win a round against.
I'd pick him over, malignaggi, bailey, abregu, berto, zaveck, decarie, heerden, jones, bundu, chaves, and lopez. He'd win a war with guerrero. Ghost has not so much pop and is there to be hit.
Floyd, marquez, bradley, alexander and brook could present him problems because they could defuse him with movement, defense, or countering. Brook I think he catches though but I see brook as having better composure than Khan so unless Maidana can pull a rabbit out a hat brook could possibly slip by him.
Some of those other guys in the first list would try movement countering and defense but would be overwhelmed.
Maidana wins a rematch with Khan too btw. And ices Ortiz again.
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Originally posted by dan_cov View PostSeriously how many of the following welterweights does he clearly beat?
Floyd
Manny
Berto
Chaves
Bundu
Alexander
Guerrero
Marquez
Brook
Abregu
Bradley
Lopez
Zaveck
Jones
Bailey
Decarie
Malignaggi
Heerden
I think he has a 50/50 against maybe half a dozen and loses the rest. The guy is painfully overrated and seriously limited.
Half a dozen guys with different styles he'd be lucky too win a round against.
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