Who will be remembered as the greater fighter..

[Uturn]

Real-Deal Holyfield.

He was the Real-Deal back in his day. Holyfield was a great fighter.

[SCtrojansbaby]

The correct order is

1.Roy
2.Hopkins
3.Pac/Holyfield
4.JMM
5.Mayweather
6.Mosley

[MJ223]

The question is not who is greatest, the question is who will be remembered as greatest those are not the same things.

Holyfield is not that memorable by and large~ sucks for him because the quality work he put in. Roy Jones despite his greatness he just never quite had that resonance with the public the same applies to Mosley and B-Hop but in the end B-Hop will get remembered more than Jones because of his longevity. JMM will probably fare well in long term memories he just never had that mass appeal during the best part of his career either.

That would leave two and I don't feel like getting in to separating them but both those guys had higher Q ratings than the rest thus will be the most remembered put them in the order you want.

Just something to keep in mind, who gets remembered more Tyson or Holyfield~ Tyson but who had the better career~ Holyfield.

Thankfully Q ratings and ppv sales aren't what you go by when judging greatness.....

[The Gambler1981]

Thankfully Q ratings and ppv sales aren't what you go by when judging greatness.....

IF you know what you are talking about, do most people know what they are talking about in relation to boxing~

[PAC-BOY]

Bhop needs to be up there more IMO!

[MJ223]

IF you know what you are talking about, do most people know what they are talking about in relation to boxing~

You think it should/does.?.?.?

[The Gambler1981]

You think it should/does.?.?.?

It is not about should or does, it is about reality.

IF someone knows what they are talking about they know the deal about greatness, but which group is bigger when it comes to boxing the group that knows or the group that doesn't really know.

[MJ223]

It is not about should or does, it is about reality.

IF someone knows what they are talking about they know the deal about greatness, but which group is bigger when it comes to boxing the group that knows or the group that doesn't really know.

Of course the mainstream is bigger then the boxing public if that's what you're implying.?.?.? But then again they're not the ones who would be coming up with ATG list.... More likely then not they don't know a thing about fighters such as Carlos Monzon Salvador Sanchez Ezzard Charles and the like

So their opinion wouldn't hold any weight to this discussion..... Because as times change so will opinions with the casual fan being a fickle lot (there's always a new star around the corner)

What stands the test of time is your resume..... And the minority group (the boxing public) knows and understands this

[The Gambler1981]

Of course the mainstream is bigger then the boxing public if that's what you're implying.?.?.? But then again they're not the ones who would be coming up with ATG list.... More likely then not they don't know a thing about fighters such as Carlos Monzon Salvador Sanchez Ezzard Charles and the like

So their opinion wouldn't hold any weight to this discussion..... Because as times change so will opinions with the casual fan being a fickle lot (there's always a new star around the corner)

What stands the test of time is your resume..... And the minority group (the boxing public) knows and understands this

The question is still who will be remembered as greatest not who is greatest, main stream fans remember fighters also just because you don't approve of their methods doesn't make them any less valid than your's, so you have to count them. Think they are wrong that is your right

I don't agree on the resume thing it is a lazy way to try to look at greatness, what matters it is the total knowledge of what took place. Without true knowledge resume is just dates, names and places unless you know the meaning behind them what does that tell you. So I don't think your opinion should hold weight~ see how that goes

[MJ223]

The question is still who will be remembered as greatest not who is greatest, main stream fans remember fighters also just because you don't approve of their methods doesn't make them any less valid than your's, so you have to count them. Think they are wrong that is your right

I don't agree on the resume thing it is a lazy way to try to look at greatness, what matters it is the total knowledge of what took place. Without true knowledge resume is just dates, names and places unless you know the meaning behind them what does that tell you. So I don't think your opinion should hold weight~ see how that goes

Who will be remembered as the greatest between the fighters listed??? I said it should be Holyfield as well as voted for him

By your logic or mainstream fans logic we should go by Q ratings and ppv sales..... Correct.?.?.?

In what world does that make sense when not every fighter in history can fit that criteria??? Every fighter in history does have a CV though