Who cares! Lately on this forum every boxer is afraid or ducking another fighter. SMH!
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Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up?
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Originally posted by PBP View PostCotto and Margarito were decent fighters but I never really cared if those fights happened or not.
As for the topic in hand - I'm a Mayweather hater but I think the retirement looks worse in retrospect than it was at the time. Now we can look back and i looks like these guys beat the prime out of each other, and then Floyd came back once everything cleared. I dunno. I think he genuinely felt burn out from boxing - DLH/Hatton were gigantic back-to-back events and money makers. He probably lost some motivation at that point.
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Floyd couldn't even make the catchweight of 145.
Floyd was a welterweight in 2009. JMM was a lightweight at that time.
Marquez was a featherweight until his mid-30s
the floyd vs marquez fight was not set at a catchweight. any fight over 140 is a welter weight fight.
marquez called out floyd who was a welterweightdon't call out a welterweight unless you expect to fight one..
and everyone knows it is harder to lose weight then gain it..
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Originally posted by Brandish View PostI asked what was your point. and of course you don't have one
the floyd vs marquez fight was not set at a catchweight. any fight over 140 is a welter weight fight.
marquez called out floyd who was a welterweightdon't call out a welterweight unless you expect to fight one..
and everyone knows it is harder to lose weight then gain it..
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Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View PostCotto and Margarito would have been fantastic fights/events, especially around that period. 2008 Cotto vs Floyd would have been crazy. That's why I found the Cotto v Floyd fight at 154 frustrating, because it could have been so much more meaningful at one point.
As for the topic in hand - I'm a Mayweather hater but I think the retirement looks worse in retrospect than it was at the time. Now we can look back and i looks like these guys beat the prime out of each other, and then Floyd came back once everything cleared. I dunno. I think he genuinely felt burn out from boxing - DLH/Hatton were gigantic back-to-back events and money makers. He probably lost some motivation at that point.
My theory is this has everything to do with Floyd and nothing to do with Margarito. Margarito is a pawn in a chess game to diminish Floyds accoplishments. Margarito, Berto, and Alexander are all HBO hypejobs that have never beaten an elite fighter between the three of them. The only difference between Margarito and the other two is Margarito called Floyd out to his face. It has nothing to do with Margaritos boxing ability, or lack there of. If Berto wouldve called Floyd out years ago and they didnt fight for whatever reason people would be making threads talking about "Would Floyd be an ATG if he had beaten Berto?" LoL. Margarito, Berto, and Alexander all have the same resume. They look great against average competition but struggle, in some cases looked horrible, against the elite fighters in their divisions.
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Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View PostCotto and Margarito would have been fantastic fights/events, especially around that period. 2008 Cotto vs Floyd would have been crazy. That's why I found the Cotto v Floyd fight at 154 frustrating, because it could have been so much more meaningful at one point.
Like I said earlier. These would have been good wins for Floyd but would have zero impact on his career from a historical perspective. Wins would not have placed him among the greatest welterweights of all time. I don't think anybody he's been accused of "ducking" would except maybe Pacquiao. The talent at 147 has never been high enough to the point where he could put together a resume similar to the likes of Robinson, Armstrong and Leonard.
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