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  • raabd
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Yeah, there are plenty more deseving fighters than ginger. A lot.
    At welter you have Guerrero and Marquez. No one wants to see the Marquez fight again. Marquez is really a lightweight or Jr welter AT BEST. At Jr middle you have trout, Molina and Lara. So 4 by my count are more deserving. Not that many. K9 who's claim to fame is beating Cory spinks is out and vanes was getting his ass beat by Lara as their fight went on and should've lost to an old ass kassim ouma. I'll take canelo's victories over cintron, Rhodes, baldomir, mosley over anything on Kirkland's record including the victory over angulo. I think Floyd beats Canelo but Canelo's style and power poses more problems for floyd than the 4 mentioned above.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ray Corso
      These kids that are 21 to 24 years old sure take a verbal beating from the "knowledgable fans"! If the classes don't have a strong ten deep of competitors then these kids wind up with ABC titles, big deal! Why not learn something about techniques THEN judge a fighter? The marginal competitors who are ranked in the top twenty are called "bums" and other ridiculous names. The trial horses and older veterans giving way to the next generation are essential to develop young fighters!! These men aren't "bums" they've an intrical force in the game and without them there will be NO Boxing!!!
      To bad the promoters and fighters management won't allow "Non-Titled" matches (10 rounds) anymore!! The current champ after a title defense takes on a top twenty guy whose resides in Seatle to promote boxing there!!
      Thats how the great fighters from the 30s thru the 50 stayed in shape and if the opponent did well he moves up in the ranks as he fights contenders.
      Ofcourse the greedy bastards that "control" (Bury) boxing won't do that! (please bo comments on cuts or unforseen injuries) these are FIGHTERS!

      I like this kid and Broner and all the rest of the youngman on the rise, forget about the Title BS!!! Learn something about Methods & Techniques and you'll know who the real skilled guys are!! Everyone with potential has a lot of hype when their coming up, nothing new!! Ray.
      Just stop. The top 10 at 154 is deep as hell. And ginger has fought none of them & got his strap facing hatton, (Not Ricky). So stop all dat nonsense right now.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #43
        Originally posted by raabd
        At welter you have Guerrero and Marquez. No one wants to see the Marquez fight again. Marquez is really a lightweight or Jr welter AT BEST. At Jr middle you have trout, Molina and Lara. So 4 by my count are more deserving. Not that many. K9 who's claim to fame is beating Cory spinks is out and vanes was getting his ass beat by Lara as their fight went on and should've lost to an old ass kassim ouma. I'll take canelo's victories over cintron, Rhodes, baldomir, mosley over anything on Kirkland's record including the victory over angulo. I think Floyd beats Canelo but Canelo's style and power poses more problems for floyd than the 4 mentioned above.
        Power? Knocking out jr welterweights does not mean you can stop Floyd.

        What style does ginger possess to bother Floyd. He's a less experienced Cotto, with crap stamina & babied to this point. Trout, Lara & even Molina pose a bigger threat to almost anyone able to compete at 154.

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        • SwineFlu
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          #44
          Originally posted by iseah100
          That's the problem. You say he's only 22 right? Okay, that's fine, he's young he shouldn't be in tough fight after tough fight, but if that's the case he shouldn't be considered a champion. That's what bothers me.
          Tough fight after tough fight? I could only imagine what you think of Floyd.

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          • Ray Corso
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            #45
            His "strap"??? hahahaha you see I don't care about the "straps" only fans do and HBO!! I just see a young guy who's being guided through carefully just like EVERYBODY else is!! You see him declared a Champ, don't! Stop being blinded by the "straps" hahaha!! "Doesn't ya no dat"!!! Stop being so impressionable! Ray.

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            • Cubanborn87
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              #46
              i dont know how good he is because he has faced only over the hill fighters or small fighters.

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              • TonkaJones
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                #47
                Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                Hes not a joke. Hes Mayweathers biggest threat. LMAO. Real talk Canelo can fight a little bit but hes untested. We dont know if he can handle real adversity. Whats going to happen if his gameplay isnt working? Can he to adjust against top level competion? These are real question marks yet to be answered.
                i agree he is a world champion but is untested against the best. to call him a joke or a true great at this point in his career is simply speculation or opinion


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                • GoldSugar
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by iseah100
                  I think the dude is the goods and he does want to fight the top guys, Golden Boy just is babying him too much. I don't thinki he's a joke though.
                  To be fair even Barrera was fighting stiffs for 40+ fights.

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                  • raabd
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                    #49
                    [QUOTE=Bushbaby;12872640]Power? Knocking out jr welterweights does not mean you can stop Floyd.

                    What style does ginger possess to bother Floyd. He's a less experienced Cotto, with crap stamina & babied to this point. Trout, Lara & even Molina pose a bigger threat to almost anyone able to compete at 154.[/QUOTE

                    Lmao!! No one said he can stop floyd. Learn to read. I said his style posseses the most trouble for Floyd. He has a solid quick jab and always punches thru his target with a great variety of combinations. Good body attack as well. He has a good straight right which Floyd has been caught with in the past and can come in with a left hook. If you don't think Canelo has power then ask cintron. Sergio Martinez, Alfredo angulo, and Carlos Molina couldn't knock cintron out. To say Canelo has no power is not true. Duh I just said Molina, trout, and Lara are more deserving but Floyd wants money and Canelo is where the money is. Canelo still needs to develop though...I'll say it again he's only 22.

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                    • Boxing Bob
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by illmaticfighter
                      ssame posters **** on canelo praise broner same posters that **** on broner praise canelo amazin how skin color changes opinions lol
                      When Broner stepped into the limelight, he fought DeMarco the percieved number 1 guy at lightweight. When Canelo stepped into the limelight, he fought a second rate 147lb contender (M Hatton) for the 154lb belt and has'nt fought a credible challenger in 5 defences. See the difference?

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