Comments Thread For: Carl Froch: I Will Add Kessler's Belt To My Collection

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #21
    Originally posted by shade darkar
    the wba super middleweight champion is ward, kessler might hold a wba belt, but he isnt the champ. this is 1 thing that is wrong with boxing. how many fcuking belts do you want! how many wba champs are there?!!!!!

    #whataloadofbollocks
    Many many WBA belts and champs. At SMW we have:

    Super champ: André Ward
    Regular champ: Mikkel Kessler
    Champion in recess: Karoly Balszay.

    Its a mess. Casual fans can't figure it out and its difficult for hardcore fans.

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    • shade darkar
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      #22
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Many many WBA belts and champs. At SMW we have:

      Super champ: André Ward
      Regular champ: Mikkel Kessler
      Champion in recess: Karoly Balszay.

      Its a mess. Casual fans can't figure it out and its difficult for hardcore fans.
      its an absolute joke pal. as far as im concerned, ward is the super middleweight champ and the rest are contenders with belts. it shouldnt be like that. should be 1 title and 1 title only per division.

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        #23
        Originally posted by shade darkar
        its an absolute joke pal. as far as im concerned, ward is the super middleweight champ and the rest are contenders with belts. it shouldnt be like that. should be 1 title and 1 title only per division.
        I'll sign that.

        It will never happen though.

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        • Grimmer
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          He still won't hold all the belts, Arthur Abraham currently has the other one. If a fighter wants to become undisputed champion, he has to fight the belt-holders
          Piss off. Ward's already beat the other belt holders, he won the super 6, he beat the LHW champ too boot.

          Stop hating Ward is the best at 168 and he's proved it.

          I'd be intrigued to see a Kessler rematch and a match against Andre Dirrell too, but if he moves up, he will have as the lineal champion and the man to beat in the division.

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          • DreamFighter
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            #25
            European belt is what Kessler should be holding, seeing as he can probably still edge out Groves and De Gale. I dont know why he didnt go for that instead of this non existent belt - he'd gain muchmore kudos for holding that than this peice of rubbish thatshe has now needlessly trained for.

            Noone really cares about invented belts.


            My own opinion is that there should be ONE major title, with either 1 or in extreme cases of 'Ottke type protection', 2 supporting/alternative body world titles. Everthing else should not have the word 'World' in it.


            As for Froch/Kess, I;d still go 50/50 at this point. Kessler had a dip in form when he lost his undefeated record (and hence his pride) but now thats healed and hes firing on all cylinders again. Dont forget this is the Kessler who was outboxing Calzaghe until his fitness problems showed. Kessler has potential ATG heart and pressure plus very good offensive skills to boot.
            Last edited by DreamFighter; 12-27-2012, 09:58 AM.

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            • Weebler I
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              #26
              Originally posted by Trippy
              Piss off. Ward's already beat the other belt holders, he won the super 6, he beat the LHW champ too boot.
              Do you know what undisputed champion means?

              In professional boxing, the undisputed champion of a weight class is a boxer who is recognized as the world champion at that class by each boxing organization.
              Froch is the IBF's world champion and Abraham is the WBO's world champion.

              Stop hating Ward is the best at 168 and he's proved it.
              Not hating, I rate Ward as the sport's best. However, if a fighter wants to be undisputed champion he has to hold all four belts. If Ward wants to pursue it, that's up to him. Until then, he isn't the undisputed champion at 168.
              Last edited by Weebler I; 12-27-2012, 10:22 AM.

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              • ma51f
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                #27
                froch by poor homedecision

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                • ImFromInternet
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                  #28
                  Just hoping the judging will be fair. It will be a great fight anyway.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by shade darkar
                    its an absolute joke pal. as far as im concerned, ward is the super middleweight champ and the rest are contenders with belts. it shouldnt be like that. should be 1 title and 1 title only per division.
                    The bold is true.

                    Belts are worthless, most fans should know who the best guys are at each weight.

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                    • stretchedout
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Trippy
                      Piss off. Ward's already beat the other belt holders, he won the super 6, he beat the LHW champ too boot.

                      Stop hating Ward is the best at 168 and he's proved it.

                      I'd be intrigued to see a Kessler rematch and a match against Andre Dirrell too, but if he moves up, he will have as the lineal champion and the man to beat in the division.
                      Yep, I completely disagree with what Weebler said.

                      Him insisting that Abraham is a SMW champion just because he holds a worthless belt is actually the cause of the problem.

                      Ward is the man, Froch is next, then Kessler, then the rest.

                      Abraham is not one of the top 3 SMW's, let alone a true champion at 168.

                      We all know this, so who cares what belt he happened to stumble across.

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