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  • psychopath
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    #31
    Originally posted by luisillo22
    You obviously dont know what you are talking about! First of all prove in what way at least one of the Marquez brothers does not deserve to be on the top ten p4p list, specially Rafael, he is beating every one he faces extremely well this guy has huge strengh not only that can take a punch as well as go a full twelve rounds non stop action so please tell me in what way at least one of the Marquez brothers does not deserve to be in the top ten p4p list please tell me I like to know.
    I have no problem with Rafael Marquez being in the p4p list because he hasn't refuse to fight any opposition. He has the skills and the balls but Juan Marquez? Excuse me.

    He got the IBF title from an aging Manuel Medina Feb 1,'03. Then fought Marcos Lincona, Aug 16, '03. Then got the WBA belt from "Chicken Gainer" who refused to punch and kept on running the whole match Nov 1, '03. Then fought Manny Pacquiao May 8,'04. Got a draw with the aid of a senile judge who admitted his own scoring mistake. Fought Orlando Salido Sept '04. And then Victor Polo May '05. He refused at least 3 offers to fight Manny Pacquiao in a rematch and refused to fight Eric Morales. Lately have been stripped of the IBF and WBA titles because of 2 failed fight bids. NO promoter wanted to promote his fight because nobody wants to watch it.

    Now give me the reason why he should qualify in the P4P list, the fact that he has stayed in one division all his life fighting old patsies and bums.

    These are FACTS brother.

    Now I'll be the one to ask you, do you know what you are talking about?
    Last edited by psychopath; 01-01-2006, 08:14 AM.

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    • masterdirector
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      #32
      Originally posted by marvdave
      so only people like you should be able to comment or write about Boxing? Very shortsighted my friend. And yes, I do feel I could have a place in your conversation.

      I have nothing but respect for anyone that steps in the ring..it is a dangerous business. I never "disrespect" a "real" fighters opinion, just as you shouldn't disrespect an opinion of others without more knowledge of their insights. What a lonely and unprofitable business Boxing would be if only fighters could comment,participate in the business or write about it.



      happy new year
      man, you're not reading what the man is writing. come on, there is no way you can comment on some aspects of anything without actually experiencing it. a lot of boxers couldn't even comment on some things Scully and other true veterans who have been in title fights could.

      I think I know everything (and I'm not wrong) but even I admit that there are some things I couldn't comment on with much credibility because I haven't experienced them.

      I've worked as a small time director in both film and theatre, also as an actor. When I worked on crew, I would hear other crew members give their opinions on things about whatever play production we were working. And 95% of them had no real clue what they were talking about. Some had never done anything related and some had, but not in the same capacity at all. I understood a lot of the director's or actors' decisions because I had done their jobs before. Some things can only be taught and understood through experience.

      Yeah we can have opinions on boxing, but we can't know what it is like to be in the ring fighting in front of a huge crowd, the weight of the world on our shoulders like that. Not unless we experience it for ourselves. Of course we can know certain things, like that Robinson was faster than LaMotta, Tyson was stronger than Holmes, etc. Heck we can know a lot about boxing, but not what it is like to be in there.

      Even Mayweather doesn't know first hand about everything. As a pro, he doesn't know about losing...yet. Zab'll teach him first hand what it feels like to get knocked out in April.

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      • marvdave
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        #33
        Originally posted by masterdirector
        man, you're not reading what the man is writing. come on, there is no way you can comment on some aspects of anything without actually experiencing it. a lot of boxers couldn't even comment on some things Scully and other true veterans who have been in title fights could.

        I think I know everything (and I'm not wrong) but even I admit that there are some things I couldn't comment on with much credibility because I haven't experienced them.

        I've worked as a small time director in both film and theatre, also as an actor. When I worked on crew, I would hear other crew members give their opinions on things about whatever play production we were working. And 95% of them had no real clue what they were talking about. Some had never done anything related and some had, but not in the same capacity at all. I understood a lot of the director's or actors' decisions because I had done their jobs before. Some things can only be taught and understood through experience.

        Yeah we can have opinions on boxing, but we can't know what it is like to be in the ring fighting in front of a huge crowd, the weight of the world on our shoulders like that. Not unless we experience it for ourselves. Of course we can know certain things, like that Robinson was faster than LaMotta, Tyson was stronger than Holmes, etc. Heck we can know a lot about boxing, but not what it is like to be in there.

        Even Mayweather doesn't know first hand about everything. As a pro, he doesn't know about losing...yet. Zab'll teach him first hand what it feels like to get knocked out in April.
        I'm not claiming to know more than him. I'm also not claiming to be able to speak with experience about being in the 12th round of a championship fight. That is not what I meant. I apoligize if thats how it came across. I just don't like when people ride in on their high horse and claim superiority. Humility is better.

        Obviously Mr. Scully has vast knowledge and experience. We can all learn alot from him. The whole "you've never played the game" routine gets old imo. I wonder why he wastes his time on a Boxing board with us know nothings. He must be trying to promote something

        happy new year

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        • LHWchamp5
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          #34
          Leddermen.. I can't stand the guy.. His fat somewhat balding head. Anybody else find this guy extremely annoying??

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          • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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            #35
            FROM DAVE: "so only people like you should be able to comment or write about Boxing? Very shortsighted my friend. And yes, I do feel I could have a place in your conversation."

            FROMICE: No, I am not saying that only boxers should talk about boxing, thats ******. I am just saying that there is OBVIOUSLY certain areas of boxing that only a boxer could discuss accurately or realistically and that's not a diss on non-boxers it is just common sense. And YOU think you couldsit in with me and 3 other twelve round figthers and talk about what it is like to be in the 12th round, etc etc???? No you couldnt , man. You could talk boxing with us,sure, and really you probably know more about the game as it is today (I have never even seen eithe rof the CASTILLO-CORRALES fights) than a lot of boxers but when it comes to in-the-ring stuff that fighters talk about with each other there is NO WAY u could relate if u never did it. NO.....WAY...POSSIBLE and only someone that never fought before would dare think they could.

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #36
              As a note... when you read the GREEN MILE article.... try and imagine what it must be really like and then double that. When that article first came out I had so many fighters email me , saying that it hit it right on the head..and I had so many fans emailing me telling me that they liked hearig the first hand account. I had NOBODY email that never fought before telling me that they could know what it was really like... if you had 10 fighters in a room and DAVE , too, talking about that walk to the ring and the crazy feelings and thoughts you experience... does Dave REALLY think he could relate and add serious input??????

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              • rsl
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                #37
                Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                FROM DAVE: "so only people like you should be able to comment or write about Boxing? Very shortsighted my friend. And yes, I do feel I could have a place in your conversation."

                FROMICE: No, I am not saying that only boxers should talk about boxing, thats ******. I am just saying that there is OBVIOUSLY certain areas of boxing that only a boxer could discuss accurately or realistically and that's not a diss on non-boxers it is just common sense. And YOU think you couldsit in with me and 3 other twelve round figthers and talk about what it is like to be in the 12th round, etc etc???? No you couldnt , man. You could talk boxing with us,sure, and really you probably know more about the game as it is today (I have never even seen eithe rof the CASTILLO-CORRALES fights) than a lot of boxers but when it comes to in-the-ring stuff that fighters talk about with each other there is NO WAY u could relate if u never did it. NO.....WAY...POSSIBLE and only someone that never fought before would dare think they could.
                Word to your mutha...

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                • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                  #38
                  word to my mutha? I guess you agree?

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                  • rsl
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                    word to my mutha? I guess you agree?
                    C'mon Scully get with the program.

                    Here sing along with me...

                    Ice, Ice, baby...

                    By the way I have a question for ya...

                    I seem to have a problem with guys who slip punches well(bob n' weave or shoulder roll)
                    how do you go about solving this?

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                    • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                      #40
                      The BEST tactic to counter guys that have that slick upper body movement is to keep feinting them... fake them to see what their patterns are in terms of avoiding you... try to feint them and plan to follow up with punches, the JAB mainly, that will go where they usully end up. So you kind of run them into your punches

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