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  • TensionKiller
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    #121
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    Mack is the first easy fight he had in years, just like Kessler taking a softer touch in Magee and Ward in Pavlik.


    Its not up for debate Rigondeaux's footwork is the best in boxing. It doesn't matter who is opposite him. He has put his footwork on display at the highest levels both amateur, professional and sparring.
    His footwork isn't going to magically disappear because the Filipino phoney is stood across from him. And Naz's footwork never looked good, he was often off balance and tripping over his own feet, his footwork lead to him being knocked down several times.
    Pavlik is better than Mack who went down in wait. Wasn't Magee an eliminator?

    That little step thing Rigo does where he is on one foot for that extra second is going to cause him trouble when someone good as Donaire comes for him. His footwork is fluid and he relies on it t make people miss, but he will get hit.

    I will bet 2 bil with you Donaire wins. You down? I can get 5 bil easy. 2 for you, 3 for Shawn. Put your e points where your mouth is.

    Oh and Naz has good footwork. He was off balanced a lot when he came in throwing his wild punching though. He had quick and fluid feet though.

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    • HeroBando
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      #122
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      I don't think either would of done well at any weight. Its like Donaire gets a pass because he used to fight in the lower weight divisions.
      Newflash for you; Wladimir Klitschko was also a 112lbs at one point!

      Narvaez is a 5ft3, tiny little man who was outweighed on fight night by something ridiculous like 20lbs despite being forced to move up a weight division!
      Did Wlad hold a belt at 112? Cause Donaire did, at the same time as Narvaez. In fact he'd been above 115 for less than a year when he fought undefeated 115 champ Narvaez.

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      • dan_cov
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        #123
        Originally posted by Saracen
        Pavlik is better than Mack who went down in wait. Wasn't Magee an eliminator?

        That little step thing Rigo does where he is on one foot for that extra second is going to cause him trouble when someone good as Donaire comes for him. His footwork is fluid and he relies on it t make people miss, but he will get hit.

        I will bet 2 bil with you Donaire wins. You down? I can get 5 bil easy. 2 for you, 3 for Shawn. Put your e points where your mouth is.

        Oh and Naz has good footwork. He was off balanced a lot when he came in throwing his wild punching though. He had quick and fluid feet though.

        I'm not sure what little step thing you're referring to tbh but I guess you mean the bounce before he side steps, which he does when out of range.

        2 billion, you're on.

        And if he was always off balance then clearly his footwork wasn't up to much.

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        • TensionKiller
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          #124
          Shawn I noticed you are very confident and that you have 5 bil.

          I'll wager all those points on Donaire VS your 5 bil.

          Dan Cov you have 3 bil, whatever you have left after your bets, I would like to make the bets. Thanks guys.

          I wanted to see how confident you guys were, and you showed that you both are 100% behind Rigo. That allowed me to consider these bets and I am at ease that you will take it with NO odds.

          I will transfer 10 bill here if you both agree. Much appreciated.

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            #125
            OK so I looked after and you have 2.5 Trillion. What is your max bet bro?

            Let me know and I will see what I can afford.

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              #126
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Rigondeaux is open for the left hook!!!!

              Guess what, Donaire is open for absolutely everything!

              His defense sucks.
              Because he get's hit? LOL shocking!!! When you open up against you're playing with fire. One punch and your night is over.

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                #127
                Originally posted by dan_cov
                Marroquinn is huge at the weight and outweighed Rigo by a lot (5ft8 and I believe he rehydrated to 138), he also has a very potent left hook and Rigo took it fine IMO
                Did it stun him? Yes it did.

                I felt he recovered very well though.

                I don't have any concerns about his chin and even if it is pretty bad, he has outstanding defense.
                Source? I believe he rehydrated to < 130, which is not very big. Either way, he wasn't too big or powerful for that scrub on solo boxeo

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  I don't bandwagon anything. I am not biased.
                  I am a critic of most of these hypejobs and have took a lot of flack over the years for speaking out on Khan and the likes.
                  When I tell you a fighter is a hypejob, I'm not being a troll or a hater, I'm telling it how it is.

                  I have seen enough of Rigondeaux and Donaire over the years and my opinion is set in stone, mark it down. Maybe I am a little too high on Rigondeaux but I like too think I know styles and can recognise talent.

                  As for Golovkin, I agree, its too early to say, hes fought one guy who wasn't even in the top 10.


                  you are quite biased against americans...


                  how anybpdy could possibly rate donaire below rigo is beyond me

                  saying you "have a feeling," or believe that he's the better fighter is one thing, but to speak of it as if picking him is the logical step is horribly wrong.


                  donaire should and will be favored. a lesser of tier of fighters has given rigo issues, ranging from bumps in the road to serious, and shaken his chin.
                  Last edited by New England; 12-17-2012, 03:43 PM.

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                  • MJ223
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    Did you just call Rigo's mobility narrow? Rigo has by FAR the better feet between the two. Rigo is known for his feet. The dude has basically the best footwork ever in the history of boxing. His mobility is unreal.
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    I'd probably agree with that, his footwork is out of this world. I genuinely can't name one fighter with better footwork, balance, coordination.
                    How long have you two been watching the sport??? Do tell plz

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by dan_cov
                      I'd say nearer the 5' 6 1/2" mark and he rehydrates to high 130s.
                      For tiny Narvaez he rehydrated to 134lbs I think it was first thing in the morning and was bragging about still having 3 meals to go on his FB so I can only presume he was around 140 in there.
                      Seriously cant take this post serious when he just weighed in at 129 for Arce...

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