How does Floyd not get credit for beating a guy 3 years ago

[4Corners]

Floyd even against Oscar, possibly the biggest I've seen Floyd on fight night, weighed 150 lbs against him. Yet we have people here who like to claim he was 155+ when he fought Marquez. Yeah alright........

[Larry the boss]

Not only that, Floyd apologists pretend he was the same weight as Pacquiao in the ring when he fought Marquez. They must also be pretending to forget Floyd refused to step on HBO's scale the night of the fight.

in floyds last ww fight with Ortiz he was 150 on fight night...fact

[Null]

But, it's like, guess what? I don't want to argue about this anymore. Somebody always starts these threads defending this fighter or trying to validate his legitimacy as a fighter. It's like, if he's so good, why is there all these threads where you have to argue about whether he is good or not? Why does someone have to defend his actions? Why do you have to convince me he is good? The great fighters never need their fans to convince people they are good. Actions speak louder than words. But, with Mayweather it's the opposite. This dude always has threads made about him everyday and I'm getting tired of always debating about this dude. I'm over it and the debates never gets anywhere.

[Weebler I]

4th fight at ww??he had 1 with Floyd and this was his 2nd with Manny..where did you get 4?..Floyd beat him on skills not size,Jmm couldnt touch him..how would weight affect that?

Arite Larry, how about Floyd fights Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168? because that's what he made Marquez do.

Wow bro, I gotta be honest, you aren't very smart.....

You're the one who thinks a ******** addict who burns money and who has just come out of the pen. is a "businessman"... so what does that make you?

[Prime 407]

Who 3 years later and 3 years older knocked Manny out cold at the full 147 limit? yet people dont want to give Floyd any credit for making him look childish when he was 3 years younger...and dont come at me bout muscles cause muscles dont win fights never have and never will..skills wins fights

Simple, he beat the lesser non-heredia version of JMM

[Larry the boss]

Arite Larry, how about Floyd fights Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168? because that's what he made Marquez do.



You're the one who thinks a ******** addict who burns money and who has just come out of the pen. is a "businessman"... so what does that make you?

so floyd made Jmm(who called him out) go to his 6th and 7th division??

[IMDAZED]

No one's done to Marquez what Mayweather did - a thorough butt kicking. His detractors can no longer use weight advantage as an excuse and they also like to forget that Floyd was coming off a two year layoff. A great win.

[Weebler I]

so floyd made Jmm(who called him out) go to his 6th and 7th division??

that isn't your point larry, this thread (you made) is asking why he doesnt get credit.

How much credit would Martinez get for beating Mayweather at 160 or Ward for beating him at 168?

Floyd isnt that ****** but Marquez wanted the payday badly enough and Mayweather wouldn't even meet him at the catchweight.

[Johnwoo8686]

It is not foolish to compare Mayweather to Martinez at 160 or Ward at 168 since Marquez jumped up two weight divisions to fight Mayweather at 147. You can't believe for a second Marquez or Pacquiao have any business at welterweight, those dudes are not welterweights at all. Mayweather has been fighting at 140 or above since 2004. Pacquiao and Marquez were still at 130 in 2008. Come on, man. That fight Mayweather had against Marquez was a joke, and no one gave Marquez any kind of chance in that fight. Everyone knew Mayweather would beat him. Please stop it, though. Don't act like anyone gave Marquez a shot going into that fight. It was a joke fight.

Yes it is. Like a previous poster stated, going up to 160 or 168 would be Mayweather's 7th and 8th weight class! While 147 is only Marquez's fifth weight class. 147 for Marquez is what 154 is for Floyd. He's only slightly bigger than either of those guys.

And yes people did give Marquez a chance in that fight. Floyd was coming off a 2 year lay off to fight the p4p second best fighter in the world. People actually gave Marquez less of a chance against Pacquiao in their 3rd fight and we all saw how that went down. Marquez actually came in at 150 for Pac-Marquez 3. Stop trying to act like Floyd Mayweather is as big as Tommy Hearsn because he's not.

[4Corners]

Marquez just beat the #1 fighter at the same weight Floyd beat him at, in a shut out. End of story.......

It wasn't Floyd's greatest win, but he should sure as hell get his due for it, given what Marquez has done his last two fights against Manny at WW.