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  • Dr Rumack
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    #11
    Originally posted by DannYankee09
    I think the answer to your Questions are yes except in the foot work department you are right about Cotto but in every other department Canelo looks more impressive, he is not slow and doesnt gas and i believe he can take Floyds punches and hurt Floyd back he is not that Inexperienced the kid has 40 fights maybe not at Mega star level but when he fights he doesn't look shy at all in that ring.
    In comparison to Cotto he's younger, stronger, taller, more powerful, more explosive, and has better reach. All this is good. But Cotto fought an incredibly disciplined fight against Floyd.

    He was so patient. I heard guys criticising him afterwards for not unloading on Floyd when he had him against the ropes, but it was the very fact that he didn't go crazy that allowed him to land his combinations instead of wearing himself out on Floyd's arms like most guys do. He also kept a really tight guard, even in close, and caught a huge amount of Floyd's shots in the centre of the ring with his gloves.

    Although I can see how Canelo could overpower Floyd in the shoving matches, and how that might create those opportunities against the ropes to land big bodyshots, I can also see him getting cut apart in the middle of the ring and struggling to pin Floyd down.

    In my opinion, the key to beating Mayweather is limiting the number of significant exchanges, and ensuring that when you do exchange it's somewhere from which he can't escape. But for even this to work, you can't let Floyd steal the round with his single shots in the middle of the ring. And that's very difficult seeing how fast and accurate he is.

    Canelo, in my opinion, has too much confidence in his chin and as such has holes in his guard. I think Floyd would land too many shots from open territory for the current version of Canelo to win rounds in the tactical fashion of Castillo and Cotto. I think he would probably have to find a new way to take rounds of Floyd and that would probably involve him being extremely aggressive.

    Given his physical advantages, maybe that aggression would get results. But there's no one out there better capable of turning your aggression against you than Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Last edited by Dr Rumack; 12-01-2012, 12:35 PM.

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      #12
      I think Floyd would expose Canelo, I know im going to get alot of hate for this, but Canelo has not fought anyone in my book, Gomez,Shane,Lopez,Cintron..those are the best names on his resume. He is a great offensive fighter and people arent really siting back and looking at the holes in his game, He has no head movement, and to me it dont look like he knows how to cut the ring off yet.

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        #13
        Show me a fighter that has no jab and put him in with mayweather and it'll be an easy night for Floyd. If this fight happens next I'm calling a shut out for Floyd.

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        • DannYankee
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dr Rumack
          In comparison to Cotto he's younger, stronger, taller, more power, more explosive, and has better reach. All this is good. But Cotto fought an incredibly disciplined fight against Floyd.

          He was so patient. I head guys criticising him afterwards for not unloading on Floyd when he had him against the ropes, but it was the very fact that he didn't go crazy that allowed him to land his combinations instead of wearing himself out on Floyd's arms like most guys do. He also kept a really tight guard, even in close, and caught a huge amount of Floyd's shots in the centre of the ring with his gloves.

          Although I can see how Canelo could overpower Floyd in the showing matches, and how that might create those opportunities against the ropes to land big bodyshots, I can also see him getting cut apart in the middle of the ring and struggling to pin Floyd down.

          In my opinion, the key to beating Mayweather is limiting the number of significant exchanges, and ensuring that when you do exchange it's somewhere from which he can't escape. But for even this to work, you can't let Floyd steal the round with his single shots in the middle of the ring. And that's very difficult seeing how fast and accurate he is.

          Canelo, in my opinion, has too much confidence in his chin and as such has holes in his guard. I think Floyd would land too many shots from open territory for the current version of Canelo to win rounds in the tactical fashion of Castillo and Cotto. I think he would probably have to find a new way to take rounds of Floyd and that would probably involve him being extremely aggressive.

          Given his physical advantages, maybe that aggression would get results. But there's no one out there better capable of turning your aggression against you than Floyd Mayweather Jr.
          Very true sir, but out of all that is out there other than the soup opera that is the idea of a Manny Pacquiao fight, i think this guy is the biggest threat he could pick, because of the body work you mentioned strength and other attributes he might be able to slow Floyd down if he can take those straights Floyd is hard to hit but can be hit if you don't let yourself to be stunned by the pop shots right hands and he is open to body shot bruising him on the ropes.

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            Canelo has the tools but does he have the mental toughnest to pull it off? Would he be able to keep his head if and when things dont go accourding to plan? Those are fair questions to ask when you talk about fighters who have the skill but have been protected. The Canelos, Gary Russell Jr, and Broners (before DeMarco) of the world.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
              Canelo has the tools but does he have the mental toughnest to pull it off? Would he be able to keep his head if and when things dont go accourding to plan? Those are fair questions to ask when you talk about fighters who have the skill but have been protected. The Canelos, Gary Russell Jr, and Broners (before DeMarco) of the world.
              Thats a very good point, From what I hear Canelo said he thinks he can be greater than Chavez..That kinda makes me think his head has grown a little to big considering he hasnt fought any of the top fighters in his class. Thats what happened to Ortiz he just was frustrated, and PBF has frustrated alot of good fighters Hatton, Judah to name a couple.

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              • Priest Andretti
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                #17
                Canelo is a patient and very poised fighter for his age. Hes never showed to be a mentally weak fighter.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Priest Andretti
                  Canelo is a patient and very poised fighter for his age. Hes never showed to be a mentally weak fighter.
                  He has never stepped into the ring againts anyone near the level of fighter of PBF.

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                  • DannYankee
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                    Canelo has the tools but does he have the mental toughnest to pull it off? Would he be able to keep his head if and when things dont go accourding to plan? Those are fair questions to ask when you talk about fighters who have the skill but have been protected. The Canelos, Gary Russell Jr, and Broners (before DeMarco) of the world.
                    Originally posted by onetwopunch
                    Thats a very good point, From what I hear Canelo said he thinks he can be greater than Chavez..That kinda makes me think his head has grown a little to big considering he hasnt fought any of the top fighters in his class. Thats what happened to Ortiz he just was frustrated, and PBF has frustrated alot of good fighters Hatton, Judah to name a couple.
                    I agree that he is young and might not be enough to beat Mayweather, but what I'm saying is hes the biggest threat out there i think, he is young and cocky obviously by saying what he said but that's nothing new with a young guy in boxing. He has what Cotto needed, Cotto had great mental toughness and a great game plan if he could execute those he has the physical tools Cotto lacked.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DannYankee09
                      I agree that he is young and might not be enough to beat Mayweather, but what I'm saying is hes the biggest threat out there i think, he is young and cocky obviously by saying what he said but that's nothing new with a young guy in boxing. He has what Cotto needed, Cotto had great mental toughness and a great game plan if he could execute those he has the physical tools Cotto lacked.
                      He does have the physical tools but also lacks some tools at the same time
                      - lacks good head movement
                      - lacks ability to cut the ring off
                      - and he is young and the level of competition he has fought just aint there.

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