Comments Thread For: Robert Guerrero Drops Berto Twice, Wins Decision

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Sugar Q
    Undisputed Champion
    • May 2009
    • 3384
    • 159
    • 0
    • 9,834

    #201
    Originally posted by turnedup
    1. I'm a realist..on any given night even a c class fighter can pull of an upset.
    2. I have never in my life stated "So and so is guaranteed to win"..that's noob boxing fans favorite activity.
    3. Time will tell, seems like he's going to have to fight him anyway so all questions will be asked.
    4. Guerrero is faster and hits harder than cotto..pulls he goes from head to body and back better than Cotto..i'm familiar with Robert's technical abilities..it won't be an easy fight for either guy that much is for sure.
    5. I'm not a betting man either but I tend to bet on underdogs when I do bet.

    Guerrero doesn't hit nearly as hard as Cotto for one thing and Cotto has one of the best jabs in boxing which Guerrero's can't compare. Guerrero fought an Ortiz type fight but he doesn't hit nearly as hard as Ortiz that's who you should be comparing Guerrero to and you see what happen to Ortiz against Floyd. Guerrero would be easier because Team Floyd would make sure they have a good ref that wouldn't allow the fouls and we all know how Floyd would handle a fighter that constantly fouled him. Take away the ability to foul and the Ghost becomes extremely ordinary.

    Comment

    • MeanestNiceGuy
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Nov 2011
      • 4557
      • 1,060
      • 1,753
      • 32,266

      #202
      Mayweather has a 26 inch reach, while Guerrero has a 22 inch reach...so how in the hell does Guerrero have a reach advantage? Some of you guys are just excited about Robert's victory tonight. Relax

      Comment

      • Realizniguhnit
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • May 2011
        • 4465
        • 369
        • 113
        • 34,154

        #203
        Originally posted by edgarg
        Why do you think that anyone using a shoulder roll is trying to _unsuccessfully- imitate Mayweather...?? In the past, nearly everybody who had any sense of self-preservation had a shoulder roll as art of his defensive moves. Just one of many. The ony reason that Mayweather uses it is because he was taught to, by his father, who used it all the time. Otherwise, like many tody, he wouldn't know anything about it.

        And...by the way, it is not an almighty cure-all, miracle 6 inch armour plate that Mayweather's "genius" grabbed from the clouds. He gets hit enough, athough it's designed to take some of the power off the heavy shots, He usually makes sure to fight someone whom he knows for certain he will beat. He nearly slipped up against Augustus, who had lost about 20 fights then, and Castillo, whom he thought was well beaten-up by having been the sparring partner for Julio Cesar Chavez for over 6 years.

        Augustus actually had a rather better shoulder roll than Mayweather. There's a guy, who with better management and training habits, would have been a champion.
        You see Floyd get hit more now because he's 35.. He didn't nearly slip up against Agustus lol he was sick and had a rotator cup injury that fight and still punished Augustus, he also fought Castillo with a torn rotator cup but i think the fact that Castillo outweighed him by 7 pounds was a factor, just like it will be a factor for broner when he moves up and tries to bully and walk down guys he "thinks" he's bigger then. Broner gets away with it now with the level of competition he's facing with too slow or too small he goes into fights with advantages...Floyd's given up 10 pounds..

        Comment

        • turnedup
          Boxing fan since 1985
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Sep 2012
          • 10387
          • 1,936
          • 585
          • 53,504

          #204
          Originally posted by Sugar Q
          Guerrero doesn't hit nearly as hard as Cotto for one thing and Cotto has one of the best jabs in boxing which Guerrero's can't compare. Guerrero fought an Ortiz type fight but he doesn't hit nearly as hard as Ortiz that's who should be comparing Guerrero to and you see what happen to Ortiz against Floyd. Guerrero would be easier because Team Floyd would make sure they have a good ref that wouldn't allow the fouls and we all know how Floyd would handle a fighter that constantly fouled him. Take away the ability to foul and the Ghost becomes extremely ordinary.
          Again a matter of opinion..since he seems to now be Floyd's mandatory we'll find out in a few months.

          Comment

          • Fasttimes
            Banned
            • Sep 2012
            • 413
            • 18
            • 0
            • 518

            #205
            Berto is not good on the inside. He did great at range but once in close he got beat up for the most part. Hell, Collazo beat up Berto on the inside but he got robbed by the judges.

            Great win for the Ghost though, would love if he got the Floyd fight.

            Comment

            • turnedup
              Boxing fan since 1985
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Sep 2012
              • 10387
              • 1,936
              • 585
              • 53,504

              #206
              Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
              Mayweather has a 26 inch reach, while Guerrero has a 22 inch reach...so how in the hell does Guerrero have a reach advantage? Some of you guys are just excited about Robert's victory tonight. Relax
              Be taller and lean forward..what does that reach turn into?

              Comment

              • jbpanama
                Big Floyd Fan
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Jan 2010
                • 8075
                • 107
                • 0
                • 20,919

                #207
                Originally posted by edgarg
                Sorry to butt in. You HAVE made a point, and why can't they just call it "Random Testing", which is just what it is ? It obviously is NOT Olympic Standard Testing, and by calling it OST they are fooling the unknowing public with a batant lie.
                Lance Armstrong paid Millions,in "Contributions" to his Testing Agency; so does anyone think that all these Testing Agencies, are on the Square???
                Roid Blood Out, New Blood in, appears to be the M.O. To achive Clean Tests, for the Cheats...

                Comment

                • migaledut
                  Up and Comer
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 99
                  • 8
                  • 0
                  • 6,151

                  #208
                  Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                  Floyd couldn't and wouldn't do that 1st off. I will say I was also a bit taken back by Guerrero's physical strength tonight and I don't put PED abuse past anyone especiallt if some form of ost wasn't performed for this fight. People do anything for money and fame..
                  Actually I thought Berto was the one who looked like he was on PEDs tonite... how he was cracking with those lightning speed hands in the later rounds after being beat up like that... The sad thing is that some day soon a tragedy will happen beacause of the beatings these guys are taking and being able to sustain thanks to those PEDs which, don't fool yourselves, are massively spread around boxing and every other sport, just check out the memo heredia interview with that Netherlands newspaper that is around the web

                  Comment

                  • Toltec77
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1235
                    • 36
                    • 0
                    • 7,659

                    #209
                    Originally posted by marvin douglas
                    It's not a lack of IQ, it's a lack of chin. He had to grab because he was afraid to exchange punches. He knew the Ghost would KO him so held always held that one arm.
                    I agree Berto was hold that arm for dear life, he was getting hurt everytime he felt those shots.

                    Comment

                    • turnedup
                      Boxing fan since 1985
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 10387
                      • 1,936
                      • 585
                      • 53,504

                      #210
                      Originally posted by jbpanama
                      Lance Armstrong paid Millions,in "Contributions" to his Testing Agency; so does anyone think that all these Testing Agencies, are on the Square???
                      Roid Blood Out, New Blood in, appears to be the M.O. To achive Clean Tests, for the Cheats...
                      Until they do year round random testing can't nobody say boxing is clean even with testing involved..

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP