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  • turnedup
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    #161
    Originally posted by Sugar Q
    Yeah Im a couch potato that watched Hagler/Hearns ringside, lol. You got the wrong dude dude. I fought very successfully and still train to this day. Fighting is in the family dude. You speak of Floyd but what about the much older Marquez or Martinez? Floyd is a gym rat who takes great care of himself and can probably fight at a very high level until he's 40. Ever heard of Saoul Mamby who was kicking ass at near 50? What about Archie Moore, etc? Your not ready for none of this knowledge my dude so I suggest you get back to the couch.
    Good for you, nice that you were a fighter. None of those names you mentioned rely so much on speed as Mayweather does, Martinez in no way shape or form fights back against the ropes..ever!! which by the way has been openly discussed how his lateral seems massively diminished by even some of the groupiest analysts out there. Floyd in his last few fights has relied more and more on the ropes..he's not spinning fighters..he fights his fights in the middle and retreats to the ropes..no to address your point on athleticism I was a competitive cyclist..speed is one of the first things to go..but perhaps you weren't all that fast yourself who know's either way it was you who was first to assume..I just returned the favor.

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    • radioraheem
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      #162
      Originally posted by turnedup
      Yet Goodman doesn't support USADA..ya'll hear USADA and assume they are testing for everything. They operate on a fight based contract that's written by the promoter..so the tests aren't all encompassing...nor do all results go public. In all fairness i'll let you look up the winky wright situation before I even discuss this any further with you..it's pointless.
      Show me where Goodman clearly said something negative about USADA. Otherwise, you're just fabricating pure lies. Goodman is on record several times saying nothing short of positive things about USADA.

      VADA also operates on fight based contract where the results do not go to the public. Goodman said this clearly. She also said that with VADA, the results of testing only goes out with the fighter's permission. So it's the fighter that decides whether or not the public will get to see the results. Did you even realize that with Peterson's case, Peterson knew about his positive drug test for nearly a full month before the Commission and Promoter knew?

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      • hitking
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        #163
        Originally posted by richardt
        OBVIOUSLY you never saw Guerrero at the lighter weights or you would have seen his 8 KO's in a row, a number of them one punch KO's on ESPN. I have!
        Against who???

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        • Angry Cuban
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          #164
          Originally posted by RIZO24
          So did you like they way dirty ass Casamayor fought? He was a dirty ass fighter!! Fans like you are the minority in boxing or else Lara and Rigo would bring more fans to their fights and HBO and SHOWTIME would have them on their network on a regular basis..
          That's right..that's why today we hear about rios vs alvarado for FOTY..or this fight for it..when those fights didn't included defence, footwork, ring knowledge, head movement, boxing skills..was only four bums hitting eachother with everything they have( witch is not much)

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            #165
            Originally posted by radioraheem
            Show me where Goodman clearly said something negative about USADA. Otherwise, you're just fabricating pure lies. Goodman is on record several times saying nothing short of positive things about USADA.

            VADA also operates on fight based contract where the results do not go to the public. Goodman said this clearly. She also said that with VADA, the results of testing only goes out with the fighter's permission. So it's the fighter that decides whether or not the public will get to see the results. Did you even realize that with Peterson's case, Peterson knew about his positive drug test for nearly a full month before the Commission and Promoter knew?
            So damn typical, obviously you can't use google either..I told you exactly what to google yet here you are assuming i'm lying. Her site is maxboxing if i'm correct..she's got plenty on there..she's also on twitter and replies to pretty much any question you have. Again did you bother to google winky wright? If not here you go..

            http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...the-same-field

            Also on the Dr. Goodman situation Fighthype has two separate threads with every quote from her on why USADA Is pure bullshhh.. Also read about why she was fired from The Ring Magazine which is owned by GBP
            Last edited by turnedup; 11-25-2012, 12:48 AM.

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            • Realizniguhnit
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              #166
              Originally posted by Sugar Q
              Yeah Im a couch potato that watched Hagler/Hearns ringside, lol. You got the wrong dude dude. I fought very successfully and still train to this day. Fighting is in the family dude. You speak of Floyd but what about the much older Marquez or Martinez? Floyd is a gym rat who takes great care of himself and can probably fight at a very high level until he's 40. Ever heard of Saoul Mamby who was kicking ass at near 50? What about Archie Moore, etc? Your not ready for none of this knowledge my dude so I suggest you get back to the couch. Fine somebody like yourself who don't really know **** about the game my dude.
              If Floyd keeps jumping in there with full blown middleweights, he will eventually lose. Floyd is still a welterweight/lightweight.

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              • hitking
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                #167
                Originally posted by marvin douglas
                Have you ever heard of Henry Amstrong? He held the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight titles at the same time.

                Ray Leonard was a welterweight and captured the light heavy title. Floyd started out at 130 and he captured the 154 title. Pac's first fight was at 108. Oscar and B-hop also moved way up in weight. In fact, very few fighters stay in one weight division; most move up

                Also, the Ghost wasn't a bull, he just fought Berto who is no matador.
                If you don't think Guerrero's mauling of a guy he was a helluva lot physically stronger than didn't carry the day for him tonight, I advise you go back and watch the fight again.

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                • Carpe Diem
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by RIZO24
                  So did you like they way dirty ass Casamayor fought? He was a dirty ass fighter!! Fans like you are the minority in boxing or else Lara and Rigo would bring more fans to their fights and HBO and SHOWTIME would have them on their network on a regular basis..

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                  • richardt
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by hitking
                    Against who???
                    Against FEATHERWEIGHTS something you claimed he didn't have power against. Now please share with us all about Bertos iron chin, the one that was cracked against a LIGHTWEIGHT 3 fights back!

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                    • RIZO24
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Angry Cuban
                      That's right..that's why today we hear about rios vs alvarado for FOTY..or this fight for it..when those fights didn't included defence, footwork, ring knowledge, head movement, boxing skills..was only four bums hitting eachother with everything they have( witch is not much)
                      Alright I agree to disagree with you, lets leave it at that.. I know I wont be watching Lara and Rigo fight along with the majority of boxing fans. LMAO

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