How is ray Leonard beter than mayweather??

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  • 110110110
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    #151
    Originally posted by Brother Jay
    Its interesting that you'd ask how a man that is #1 at WW and #1 at jrMW could have fans.

    Equally interesting would be your answer to the question: Who in this era has fought and defeated more top 3 ranked fighters in the divisions they've competed in to prove that they are #1?

    What you perceive as "dangerous" seems to boil down to simply being your own personal interest in that particular match happening.

    Any boxer who has two fists is dangerous. I'm sure Pauly Malignaggi would have his way with most on this site under the MOQ rules.

    However, being perceived as "dangerous" means NOTHING if you can't back it up in the ring.

    Please explain: Who did Floyd avoid?

    Cotto .. whose biggest win came over Mosley and then less than a year later he was beaten bloody?

    Margarito ... who was beaten by Williams before beating Cotto .. and then less than six months later got laid out by Shane Mosley?

    Williams .. whose biggest win came over Margarito .. only to be embarrassed by journeyman Quintana 7 months later?

    Who are these men that Mayweather avoided. I'd be very interested to know.

    Were you referring to the above fighters? So is the fact that those "dangerous" men couldn't even maintain more than a year's worth of longevity at the top what warranted them being seen as "avoided"?

    LOL ... maybe you have a point I've overlooked.

    Maybe you were referring to Kostya Tszyu, who demanded for a 60/40 split in his favor in order to make a fight with the bigger draw Mayweather. We all know that wasn't going to happen.

    But what happened next?

    Floyd gave up waiting on Tszyu and gave a brutal performance against Gatti instead. While Tszyu got mugged in the ring by Ricky Hatton. Which gave Hatton the idea that as the conquerer of Tszyu, he could chase Mayweather and beat him. Didn't work out that way.

    Oh the irony.

    So when you get the time and your thoughts together, do us all a favor and explain to the forum who exactly Floyd Mayweather ducked by consistently facing the #1, 2 & 3 ranked fighters in every division with the exception of Tszyu.

    We'll wait.
    I could spend the next hour dissecting your intire post bit for bit, but for what reason? its been done 1000`s of times before with the exact same BS from the same *****s over and over, infact you proberly copypasted this from somewhere else.
    Or you keep it in your ***** safe where you hid all your other BS, so you can copypaste again and again.

    I dont care what you think or dont think, its suppertime here in Denmark and I will go out now and eat the big fat ****ing steak my girlfrind have cooked.

    Peace

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    • Pullcounter
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      #152
      SRL never used PEDs like Roidweather

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      • SpeedKillz
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        #153
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        SRL never used PEDs like Roidweather
        how do you know?? testing was not that advanced back then, so how can you make a claim like this? cannot WAIT to hear an answer from a stan such as yourself...

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          #154
          Originally posted by SpeedKillz
          how do you know?? testing was not that advanced back then, so how can you make a claim like this? cannot WAIT to hear an answer from a stan such as yourself...



          seriously, to hear YOU call other people 'stan' is downright comical

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          • NChristo
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            #155
            ?

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            • SpeedKillz
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              #156
              Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
              seriously, to hear YOU call other people 'stan' is downright comical

              more or less comical than your post, pot?

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              • Rk16
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                #157
                Originally posted by Luilun
                Sugar RaY fought figters in their prime Floyd fought all elite fighters after lightwieght when the were has beens like Delahoya, Mosley and Cotto. Ray never fought little guys like Hatton and marquez. Ray never used roids unlike Floyd who has failed 3 drug test only to have Oscar cover them up.
                Are you serious,he avoided prime Hagler and Pryor
                Duran was a smaller fighter that moved up to fight him....and beat him
                There is no proof of Mayweather failing any tests
                Last edited by Rk16; 11-21-2012, 12:54 PM.

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                • NChristo
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Rk16
                  Are you serious,he avoided prime Hagler and Pryor
                  Duran was a smaller fighter that moved up to fight him....and beat him
                  There is andy rely no proof of Mayweather failing any tests
                  In the Pryor - Blackmoore post fight interview Pryor says that Leonard offered him a career high pay day and he turned it down, if anything Pryor ducked Leonard, Leonard ducking Pryor is just another myth started by legendary nights.

                  Turned out too be a wise decision as Pryor would go on and get more money out of both the Arguello fights then out of a fight with Leonard which he would most likely lose.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                    more or less comical than your post, pot?



                    even more...in every Floyd thread, you come rushing in like you gave birth to the man, stan

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                    • Brother Jay
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                      Leonard wasn't active for years. When he did come back he stepped into the middleweight division for the first time and beat a 33 year old Hagler who was one of the greatest middleweights ever.

                      Mayweather is active (apparently), and won't face in the 154lb division (where he is the reigning champion) a 37 year old Sergio Martinez.
                      What should be mentioned is that Floyd has dominated every division coming from SFW to jrMW.

                      Just about 99% of Ray Leonard's most significant wins come in at WW.

                      So your comment is unbalance and poorly thought out.

                      Mayweather is a small WW let alone jrMW. Compare Floyd to guys like Margarito, Cintron, Williams, and Cotto.

                      Many people forget that Mosley, Mayweather and Pacquiao are relatively the same size. And if the legions of cultists who defend Pacquiao by saying he is too small get a pass, then so does Mayweather.

                      The difference is that Mayweather is willing to face the best AT THEIR BEST .. weight and condition.

                      Most people believe Leonard lost that fight against Hagler .. and guess what? Its because he couldn't use the strategy that he did as convincingly as Mayweather does. He basically tried was Mayweather has perfected. Leonard tried to play counter puncher against a man he was afraid of and wound up looking timid for it.

                      Boxing fans have screamed for decades that Hagler was robbed. And they are right. Its not that Hagler was destroying Leonard or anything but he was the aggressor and landed the better punches.

                      For an accurate picture to be painted, Leonard would have had to have gone up to LHW and beaten the #1 champion there for the comparisons to Mayweather to be accurate. Remember ... 5 divisions ... not 2 or 3.

                      If Leonard had gone up that far and STILL won, there would a real discussion here. No, instead when Leonard went up that far we saw what happened to him.

                      The rest is history.

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