To those who think Louis would beat Wlad

[elfag]

What do you say to the fact that Louis was staggered and knocked down by this man below, then no.1 contender Tony Galento? Why do you think Galento could get to him but not Wlad? I don't understand how people can think some of these ATGs would walk through Wlad when they struggled with men like the below.

from boxrec: Louis was staggered in round one and Galento was dropped in the second round. Louis was knocked down in third round.

Hold on now, that fat hairy man had "old school toughness" something that wlad could only get if he took some black and white photos of himself with a cigar and beer in his hand.

Nevermind that Wlad has 40-50 pounds of lean mass on Louis and that Louis was stopped by 192 pound schmeling.

Oh and that brewster and sanders were larger men than louis that doesnt matter either because louis also had old school toughness. But sanders with his belly and chin had real good old school toughness himself.

[Bretty Poy32]

tony galento probably only trained for 1 day for joe louis fight

[Brockton Lip]

Hold on now, that fat hairy man had "old school toughness" something that wlad could only get if he took some black and white photos of himself with a cigar and beer in his hand.

Nevermind that Wlad has 40-50 pounds of lean mass on Louis and that Louis was stopped by 192 pound schmeling.

Oh and that brewster and sanders were larger men than louis that doesnt matter either because louis also had old school toughness. But sanders with his belly and chin had real good old school toughness himself.

I don't see what mass has to do with it. Louis is a better puncher than Wlad and has destroyed large opponents. Plus in the heavies, weight differences are not as big of a factor compared to the lower weights.

Schmeling is nothing like Wlad and that was not a prime Louis. Do you forget the rematch? You bring up Brewster and Sanders, I don't know why. Louis lost to Schmeling, Wlad lost to Brewster and Sanders. Difference is that Schmeling is a hall of famer who go destroyed in the 1st in the rematch.

[Daddy T]

Wlad was knocked out in 2 rounds by Sanders, a non HOF'er. He was also knocked out by Lamon Brewster, a pretty average fighter.

These are the types of threads that make people crap on Wlad. Can't he just be great in his own era? why **** on other fighters from other different eras of boxing.

yeah I like wlad, he's easily the best in the world right now, but his fanboys suck. When they start trying to claim he's the greatest fighter since achilles or whatever and start discrediting and slagging ATG's it makes me feel like slagging off wlad in turn ... you know by saying Corrie Sanders owned his ass and Ross Puritty b1tch slapped him or whatever ...

[Tom Cruise]

What Wlad would have looked like in 1940 without modern weight training and sports science techniques...



Different eras...

edit: oh and he'd be a good few inches shorter too...

[Welsh Jon]

Why do some people act like Joe Louis was some sort of midget who would be out of place against todays fighters? He was the same size as Lamon Brewster. He was the same height as Chris Byrd but with a slightly longer reach. He is just 2 cms shorter than David Haye and his reach was just 5 CM's less than Haye. He's not Sam Langford for Gods sake!

[Tom Cruise]

Why do some people act like Joe Louis was some sort of midget who would be out of place against todays fighters? He was the same size as Lamon Brewster. He was the same height as Chris Byrd but with a slightly longer reach. He is just 2 cms shorter than David Haye and his reach was just 5 CM's less than Haye. He's not Sam Langford for Gods sake!

Dont forget his height and reach would have improved had he had the benefit of good nutrition from an early age... I dont know much about his life but the fact that he was black and grew up in the inter-war period means he was probably not all that well fed.

[#1Assassin]

you cant judge a fighter based on their worst nights, that should be obvious. especially in the HW division when anything can happen not to mention a fight where the critisized fighter comes back to win.

louis and wlad both got rocked by less than stellar competition, they arent the only ones. anything can happen in this sport, thats part of what makes it so great.

i wont get into who would win between wlad and louis bcuz frankly this thread aint worth it but ill say this much.. any fighter who goes in there hoping for the worst version of their opponent to show up is likely to take a beating. be it louis or wlad.

[Simurgh]

Here you go bud:

I don't think this was necessary due to punches Wlad took. Similar for the Brewster fight.. I think Wlad had a problem with stamina. In both fights he was dominating and then just gassed out. Brewster actually said the same in one of the interviews. It doesn't have much with the Wlad's skills or the quality of Wlad's chin, he just lost all the energy and was unable to continue. He wasn't really TKOed in Brewster fight, he just collapsed and don't pretend you don't know what happened after that.

Present Wlad is all the opposite - he can go 12 rounds high tempo without problems.

[DreamFighter]

prime Louis would KO prime Wlad and Vitali.