Clip: Oleg Maskaev Sucks

[mECHsLAVE]

I've seen it several times, and the right hand you're talking about is by no means as damaging as you're making it out to be.

The bottom line is that without that jab punch that crunches his chin, he doesn't fall in a heap like that.



Watch the way he steps into that straight right as Oleg almost walks into it chin first. He had his jaw relaxed and got cranked.

I agree, of course without that last 1-2 then he doesn't fall into a heap. My original point was that he was hurt with a right hand before the clip began- and of course he was. Then you're clip begins and Whitaker starts attacking him because he hurt him. The last 1-2 was the coupe de gras. I agree.

But you originally said I "remembered wrong" when I said I thought it all started with a right hand that hurt Maskaev before the clip began. And YOU were wrong when you said that. I remembered exactly right, and the clip should've started about 4 secs prior and everyone would have seen the right hand that initially hurt Maskaev and led to the last 1-2 that KO'd him.

It's misleading clip editing that leads to a misleading conclusion that Maskaev was "KO'd by a jab."

[Bozo_no no]

I agree, of course without that last 1-2 then he doesn't fall into a heap. My original point was that he was hurt with a right hand before the clip began- and of course he was. Then you're clip begins and Whitaker starts attacking him because he hurt him. The last 1-2 was the coupe de gras. I agree.

But you originally said I "remembered wrong" when I said I thought it all started with a right hand that hurt Maskaev before the clip began. And YOU were wrong when you said that. I remembered exactly right, and the clip should've started about 4 secs prior and everyone would have seen the right hand that initially hurt Maskaev and led to the last 1-2 that KO'd him.

It's misleading clip editing that leads to a misleading conclusion that Maskaev was "KO'd by a jab."

You're clearly upset because I challenged your comment.

I don't think the right hand you're talking about was nearly as bad as you're making it out to be, and without the last shot in my clip he doesn't necessarily go down.

So in my opinion your asserion that it all occured based off that right hand isn't relevent.

I think it had little to nothing to do with the knock down that came from a crunching right to the chin.

[DiegoFuego]

I'm wearing an "Oleg Maskaev Sucks" shirt around the house right now

[Atwa_66]

Well I can see him getting ko'd there. He was just coming off of the Kirk Johnsom devistating ko loss and he wasn't fully recovered. They say you are supposed to take 6 months off after being ko'd and that was like 2 months between these fights. I agree Maskaev's chin is weak but it looked a lot more solid against Sam who has good power. He knocked Danny Williams around just as bad as Vitali did. Maskaev was also kicking Tua's ass in Tua's prime till his glass chin gave out in the 11th round.

Oh, saying Oleg was blitzed in one round against McCall means Maskaev is **** is wrong! That was Maskaev's 6th or 7th pro fight and it was like McCalls 27th. Maskaev has the skills, just absolutely no chin.

I agree with you completely. Saying Maskaev is a **** fighter, and has no potential only comes from the mouth of someone who is uneducated in the sport. Maskaev destroyed Rahman, and I have that clip in case anyone needs to see it. Maybe he is a little older, and past his prime, sure, but he is a force in the heavyweight division. Saying he isn't is ridicolous, because there are no standout fighters. If James Toney can be a big name, than Oleg Maskaev definitely should be mentioned. Oleg is 32-5, with 25 Knockouts, and his last loss was in 2002 to Corey Sanders. 8 of his last 10 fights he won by TKO, or KO, in under 3 rounds or less. Saying he's a bad fighter is just ******.

[mECHsLAVE]

You're clearly upset because I challenged your comment.

I don't think the right hand you're talking about was nearly as bad as you're making it out to be, and without the last shot in my clip he doesn't necessarily go down.

So in my opinion your asserion that it all occured based off that right hand isn't relevent.

I think it had little to nothing to do with the knock down that came from a crunching right to the chin.

Well, we just have to totally disagree then, no problem. It's my opinion that if you're going to make a clip like this then show the punch that clearly started it all, about 3-4 secs before your clip begins. A right hand that staggers Maskaev and sends him fumbling backwards. Which is why Whitaker attacked him. Which is why he landed the last 1-2 that dropped him.

And no, it's not that I was upset necessarily. But you said I "remembered wrong" when I said Maskaev was hurt with a right hand right before the clip starts that began that sequence, did you not? And you were 100% incorrect. If you can't see the right hand, or see that Maskaev is hurt by it, or that Whitaker clearly sees that Maskaev was hurt by it and attacks him, then hey- what can I say? Just move on, because we are watching different fights or speaking different languages.

[BadMagick]

I agree with you completely. Saying Maskaev is a **** fighter, and has no potential only comes from the mouth of someone who is uneducated in the sport. Maskaev destroyed Rahman, and I have that clip in case anyone needs to see it. Maybe he is a little older, and past his prime, sure, but he is a force in the heavyweight division. Saying he isn't is ridicolous, because there are no standout fighters. If James Toney can be a big name, than Oleg Maskaev definitely should be mentioned. Oleg is 32-5, with 25 Knockouts, and his last loss was in 2002 to Corey Sanders. 8 of his last 10 fights he won by TKO, or KO, in under 3 rounds or less. Saying he's a bad fighter is just ******.

No one said he was technically unskilled, they said he has no chin. A chinless fighter who gets hit is not going to last very long. The only reason Lewis was able to survive in the division for so long is because of his stellar defense. He was shown twice that if he tries to fight a bit on the edge he'd get knocked the **** out.

[Atwa_66]

No one said he was technically unskilled, they said he has no chin. A chinless fighter who gets hit is not going to last very long. The only reason Lewis was able to survive in the division for so long is because of his stellar defense. He was shown twice that if he tries to fight a bit on the edge he'd get knocked the **** out.

Maskaev has the chin of an eggshell, no question. But people saying he sucks is ridicolous. Wlad doesn't have the best chin in the world, and he's doing just fine.

[Manny_P]

Maskaev is garbage.

[Atwa_66]

Maskaev is garbage.

Coming from a poster who lives his life around Manny Pacquiao.

[Manny_P]

Coming from a poster who lives his life around Manny Pacquiao.

Mayorga as favorite fighter? LOL!