Clip: Oleg Maskaev Sucks

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  • RiverCityMike
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    #61
    I think that the only time that anyone felt that Maskaev was a player was long ago when he knocked Rahman's ass through the ropes. Since then it's been all down hill except for a few meaningless wins. The only reason he'll get a title shot is because the champ will see it as an easy payday and one more defense. I'm not saying that it's impossible for him to beat one of the weak champs, but it's unlikely, and he isn't deserving of a title shot.

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    • Atwa_66
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      #62
      Originally posted by RiverCityMike
      I think that the only time that anyone felt that Maskaev was a player was long ago when he knocked Rahman's ass through the ropes. Since then it's been all down hill except for a few meaningless wins. The only reason he'll get a title shot is because the champ will see it as an easy payday and one more defense. I'm not saying that it's impossible for him to beat one of the weak champs, but it's unlikely, and he isn't deserving of a title shot.
      Downhill? 10 straight wins doesn't look too bad to me, and only having 5 losses doesn't deserve a title shot? Golota has 5 losses, 3 title shots, and in all 3 had 0 victories. If he can get a shot, Oleg should be up there. He should have gotten a shot at John "the paper champion" Ruiz.

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      • RiverCityMike
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        #63
        Originally posted by Atwa_66
        Downhill? 10 straight wins doesn't look too bad to me, and only having 5 losses doesn't deserve a title shot? Golota has 5 losses, 3 title shots, and in all 3 had 0 victories. If he can get a shot, Oleg should be up there. He should have gotten a shot at John "the paper champion" Ruiz.
        But who are the 10 straight opponents? I usually don't bother to watch Maskaev anymore unless I stumble upon the channel (if they even televise it). I read the results and it sounds like a bunch of nameless euros or the FOX stable of 'opponents'. I'm not saying you are wrong because this division is so weak (not to mention corrupt), guys that I would assume have no ranking do.

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        • .::EnRiQuE::.
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          #64
          Originally posted by Manny_P
          Mayorga as favorite fighter? LOL!
          pacquiao as a favorite fighter?lol! pacman loks like a ****ing 12year-old with a ****ing thick ass mustache

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            #65
            Originally posted by RiverCityMike
            But who are the 10 straight opponents? I usually don't bother to watch Maskaev anymore unless I stumble upon the channel (if they even televise it). I read the results and it sounds like a bunch of nameless euros or the FOX stable of 'opponents'. I'm not saying you are wrong because this division is so weak (not to mention corrupt), guys that I would assume have no ranking do.
            They haven't offered him a decent fight, he is steamrolling easy opponents, if his promoter gave him a challenege or a good fight, he'd change alot of minds, I gurantee it. He knocked Rahman out cold, and that was in Rahmans main prime, give Oleg a fight against a big name, and he'll give you a fight worth watching.

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            • Bozo_no no
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              #66
              Originally posted by Atwa_66
              Maskaev has the chin of an eggshell, no question. But people saying he sucks is ridicolous. Wlad doesn't have the best chin in the world, and he's doing just fine.
              Maskaev hasn't won a meaningfull fight in years, and has lost by KO to ****ty fighters.

              When I say "sucks" it's relative to all the hype and praise I read here for him.

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                #67
                Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                Well, we just have to totally disagree then, no problem. It's my opinion that if you're going to make a clip like this then show the punch that clearly started it all, about 3-4 secs before your clip begins. A right hand that staggers Maskaev and sends him fumbling backwards. Which is why Whitaker attacked him. Which is why he landed the last 1-2 that dropped him.

                And no, it's not that I was upset necessarily. But you said I "remembered wrong" when I said Maskaev was hurt with a right hand right before the clip starts that began that sequence, did you not? And you were 100% incorrect. If you can't see the right hand, or see that Maskaev is hurt by it, or that Whitaker clearly sees that Maskaev was hurt by it and attacks him, then hey- what can I say? Just move on, because we are watching different fights or speaking different languages.

                I told you 3 times, and now this is the 4th:

                I don't agree with your assertion that this right hand you keep referring to was all that damaging. It wasn't nearly what you're making it out to be, and the true damage is done by the last shot, which dispite being like a jab is snapped by a huge guy right on Oleg's chin as he's walking into it.

                The more you keep referring to it like I left this "bomb" of a right hand out, the more I'm going to keep repeating that my whole problem with what you're saying is that I don't think it was that big of a shot.

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                • Soliloquy
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                  #68
                  Hey Bozo, if Maskaev doesn't deserve a title shot then why does Toney? Oh yeah, Booker, old old old Holy, and Guinn are big wins. Listen to both sides of the stories, if Toney deserves a shot, then so does Maskaev.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Soliloquy
                    Hey Bozo, if Maskaev doesn't deserve a title shot then why does Toney? Oh yeah, Booker, old old old Holy, and Guinn are big wins. Listen to both sides of the stories, if Toney deserves a shot, then so does Maskaev.
                    Use your common sense dip ****.

                    Toney is definitely a top 5 Heavyweight. He's universally recognized as such in the boxing world.

                    Maskaev is not. He's not a top ten Heavyweight, and hasn't beaten a top ten Heavyweight since those brutal KO losses to terrible fighters.

                    Toney was the undisputed Cruiserweight champion. When an undisputed champion moves up in weight, he's ranked high automatically, in many instances, getting an immediate title shot.

                    If you have Maskaev ranked above Toney at Heavyweight, or think they're even comparable as fighters, you need to give your head a shake.

                    That's non sense.
                    Last edited by Bozo_no no; 12-24-2005, 01:41 AM.

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                    • Soliloquy
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                      #70
                      I believe that's "difinitively". If Toney is beating on the Bookers and Guinns of the world and he gets a title shot and Maskaev is beating on the Joe Schmo's of the world then he gets a title shot too, at least he worked himself into the mandatory position. That's all I'm saying.

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