Clip: Oleg Maskaev Sucks

[BLOODSHED]

Londonring is a Grade A moron.

Worst post ever. Toney was a middleweight to begin with. It's no surprise that one of the four losses over his 70+ fight career came in the middle's, and to Roy Jones Jr. of all people. Toney never fought a lightweight, and was never "whoooped" by one.

Montell Griffin, in his day, was a very good fighter. He had an unusual style, and that made it hard for a lot of his opponents. There's no shame in losing to him. He also wasn't "whoooped" in the fights. The one was a Majority decision, and the other was a UD.

Toney did take the title from Ruiz, he just had to give it back a few weeks later. There was also not a single doubt in anyone's mind who had won that fight, unlike the more recent Valuev fight. To cite boxrec rankings shows how little you know, because everyone else realizes that boxrec's rankings suck. Almost as much as Maskaev, but not quite so.

Ruiz can go for a KO all he wants, but sharp, painful counter punches will most certainly keep him from completing his goal.

[TheEvilSaint]

being KOd by a jab, from another bum.... thats just pathetic.

[Bozo_no no]

That applies to the entire thread and the lack of point of it being started in the first place. Oh, well, I am sure you know that.

I should have added what Knives said about T-rex Sanders.

But the point stands. Maskev sucks. He was knocked out by Goofi.

Stop nuthugging poor and unaccomplished fighters.

[Nautilus]

Stop nuthugging poor and unaccomplished fighters.

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[mECHsLAVE]

You remembered wrong.

I just watched it again, and there's nothing of major signifigance landed leading up to the clip. Certianly not a 'big right hand'.

Maskaev just has no chin.

Heh. Be careful when you contradict someone. You're actually 100% wrong.

I dug it up just to see, because I couldn't believe that I remembered it that wrong.

It's actually exactly like I said. Whitaker hit him with a right hand flush on the chin that staggered Maskaev RIGHT before your clip begins. That's why he's moving backwards as your clip begins.

We all agree Maskaev's chin is glass, but your entire premise of him being KO'd by a jab is of course 100% wrong, and your clip is edited to be misleading. Watch the fight again. Start watching at about 2:20 instead of 2:12. You'll see Whitaker on the ropes and land a clean right hand, directly on the chin that staggers Maskaev backwards.

And it's tought to tell in the slow motion of the clip, but the left that he throws right before that last "hook/jab" does land if you watch it in real time. It clearly jars his head and hurts him as well.

But anyway, your clip is of the aftermath of the right hand that initially hurt him, like I originally said.

[LondonRingRules]

=======Toney did take the title from Ruiz, he just had to give it back a few weeks later.=================

** Poor fatboy Jamie just had to give his title back, eh? C'mon now, you know you cried when that happened. Ya think he'll have to give back another title? You gonna cry again?

[Bozo_no no]

Heh. Be careful when you contradict someone. You're actually 100% wrong.

I had the fight on an old drive and dug it up just to see, because I couldn't believe that I remembered it that wrong.

It's actually exactly like I said. Whitaker hit him with a right hand flush on the chin that staggered Maskaev RIGHT before your clip begins. That's why he's moving backwards as your clip begins.

We all agree Maskaev's chin is glass, but your entire premise of him being KO'd by a jab is of course 100% wrong, and your clip is edited to be misleading. Watch the fight again. Start watching at about 2:20 instead of 2:12. You'll see Whitaker on the ropes and land a clean right hand, directly on the chin that staggers Maskaev backwards.

Your clip is of the aftermath of that right hand.

I told you, I've seen it several times.

That right hand you're talking about is not that damaging. It was the last punch with the weight behind it that cracks him on the chin that sends him down like a sack of potatoes.

[LondonRingRules]

========= but you are a dumbass to dis James Toney for losing to Montell Griffin. Griffin was a highly skilled fighter.===========

** I ain't the one who dissed Toney. Griffin did!

Maskaev ain't never gonna lose to a little bitty guy like Griffin, but Toney did. Now that's some funny stuff now matter how you cut it!

[mECHsLAVE]

I told you, I've seen it several times.

That right hand you're talking about is not that damaging. It was the last punch with the weight behind it that cracks him on the chin that sends him down like a sack of potatoes.

Well, you might want to watch it again. The right hand lands flush and CLEARLY staggered Maskaev backwards. I mean, are you seriously saying you can't see that? You need to get a new version of the fight if not. That right hand started everything off and is the punch that setup everything else. I mean, it's easy to see and that's exactly why Whitaker attacked him like that- he saw it, too. And the left does land right before that last "jab" as sort of a 1-2. Watch the entire round live, not in slow motion.

No biggie, as I said, Maskaev has an absolute glass chin- we all agree. But that's a very misleading clip is all. And I do have to pat myself on the back for remembering how it happened from I don't know how many years ago.

[Bozo_no no]

Well, you might want to watch it again. The right hand lands flush and CLEARLY staggered Maskaev backwards. I mean, are you seriously saying you can't see that? You need to get a new version of the fight if not. That right hand started everything off and is the punch that setup everything else. I mean, it's easy to see and that's exactly why Whitaker attacked him like that- he saw it, too. And the left does land right before that last "jab" as sort of a 1-2. Watch the entire round live, not in slow motion.

No biggie, as I said, Maskaev has an absolute glass chin- we all agree. But that's a very misleading clip is all. And I do have to pay myself on the back for remembering how it happened from I don't know how many years ago.

I've seen it several times, and the right hand you're talking about is by no means as damaging as you're making it out to be.

The bottom line is that without that jab punch that crunches his chin, he doesn't fall in a heap like that.



Watch the way he steps into that straight right as Oleg almost walks into it chin first. He had his jaw relaxed and got cranked.