Bias in Boxing

[deejd]

Oh and I do train to box btw

Forgot to mention; definitely don't bet on it.

[deejd]

sorry, didnt look as good as usual...

and to the bolded bit, seriously?! Just because im not blindly obsessed with Floyd doesnt make me a hater. I call it how i see it.

This is how I can tell you've never boxed before and are new to the sport.

[Tom Cruise]

wow im literally arguing with a ******...

I dont agree that because has fought at welterweight that doesn't makes him a small welterweight... He could conceivably make 250lbs but that doesnt make him a superheavyweight boxer... The FACTS are that only a few fights ago he made 143, Meanwhile Mayweather couldnt make 144 (if he could make it he would have dont be so naive, those two pounds he came overweight cost him $600,000).

Also i dont agree that there are double standards, when Pac moved up to 150 he was ****ted on for not fighting others at 154... So now the same is happening to Mayweather. Mayweather vs Canelo, Martinez (at 154) and others are great match ups for the fans. Thats why we ask for him to fight them.

Btw i only mentioned i boxed because you didnt seem to think that i did... I dont intend to 'bet on it' because im not all that great... Evidently neither are you because you're on the same forum as me arguing about people who did make it, rather than being the one that people argue over...

[daggum]

Too bad the contract was changed a few days before the fight in order to allow Mayweather to weigh-in at the welterweight limit without facing a fine from the NSAC.

Again, it's not that he couldn't make the weight, he just didn't care to do it. This doesn't strengthen your argument at all, in fact, you're moving the goal posts. If you're complaining about Mayweather not fighting the best competition at '54, then you can't be in this thread saying pacquiao is a small welterweight when his last bout was at '47 and four of his last five have been at '47 or higher.

According to Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the bout was supposed to be fought at a catchweight of 144 lbs. When Mayweather Jr. weighed in two pounds over the contracted weight, he was forced to pay Marquez $600,000 ($300,000 per pound)

mayweather bought marquez off so he could cheat. de****able stuff blackmailing someone into taking a fight at a weight he didn't know he would be fighting at a day before the weigh in. marquez should have walked but the millions of dollars was too hard to turn down.

[deejd]

According to Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the bout was supposed to be fought at a catchweight of 144 lbs. When Mayweather Jr. weighed in two pounds over the contracted weight, he was forced to pay Marquez $600,000 ($300,000 per pound)

mayweather bought marquez off so he could cheat. de****able stuff blackmailing someone into taking a fight at a weight he didn't know he would be fighting at a day before the weigh in. marquez should have walked but the millions of dollars was too hard to turn down.

I don't disagree with any of that. The contracted weight was '44, but in order for Mayweather to also face a penalty from the commission, he would have had to fail to make the welterweight limit, per the contract.

Cheers to JMM for going through with the fight.

[deejd]

wow im literally arguing with a ******...

I dont agree that because has fought at welterweight that doesn't makes him a small welterweight... He could conceivably make 250lbs but that doesnt make him a superheavyweight boxer... The FACTS are that only a few fights ago he made 143, Meanwhile Mayweather couldnt make 144 (if he could make it he would have dont be so naive, those two pounds he came overweight cost him $600,000).

Also i dont agree that there are double standards, when Pac moved up to 150 he was ****ted on for not fighting others at 154... So now the same is happening to Mayweather. Mayweather vs Canelo, Martinez (at 154) and others are great match ups for the fans. Thats why we ask for him to fight them.

Btw i only mentioned i boxed because you didnt seem to think that i did... I dont intend to 'bet on it' because im not all that great... Evidently neither are you because you're on the same forum as me arguing about people who did make it, rather than being the one that people argue over...

Again, you're passing off Mayweather not weighing in at '44 as a fact that he can't make that weight... he chose not too. Just as he chose to fight at '54, despite only weighing in at '51 (after drinking water).

pacquiao was, really? So how come nobody is calling for him to fight Martinez, Canelo, Cotto, or anybody at '54 now? Those who have actually followed the sport over the decades can see through the farce that is. It's not because he's too small to compete at '54, it's because he's a terrible boxer who would get exposed fighting bigger guys that actually know how to box.

As for boxing... I know you're not great, it's rather obvious. I can guarantee that I'm landslides better than you, and if you trained anybody, I guarantee my fighters would be landslides better than yours. Next time, keep your rhetoric to yourself, then you wouldn't seem so pathetic.

[Tom Cruise]

Again, you're passing off Mayweather not weighing in at '44 as a fact that he can't make that weight... he chose not too. Just as he chose to fight at '54, despite only weighing in at '51 (after drinking water).

pacquiao was, really? So how come nobody is calling for him to fight Martinez, Canelo, Cotto, or anybody at '54 now? Those who have actually followed the sport over the decades can see through the farce that is. It's not because he's too small to compete at '54, it's because he's a terrible boxer who would get exposed fighting bigger guys that actually know how to box.

As for boxing... I know you're not great, it's rather obvious. I can guarantee that I'm landslides better than you, and if you trained anybody, I guarantee my fighters would be landslides better than yours. Next time, keep your rhetoric to yourself, then you wouldn't seem so pathetic.

The bolded tells me all i need to know about who im arguing with... Mayweather couldnt make weight, nobody gives away $600,000 if they dont have to, especially 'MONEY' Mayweather.

Accusing me of being a stan then hating on Pac, nice. Hes done some incredible things in his career and the fact that he is the second highest draw in America when hes not even from there speaks volumes.

I dont care how good i am at boxing, I started late. I love doing it though so will carry on despite you thinking i'm no good (honestly bro you cut me deep). And the jabs at my training ability, OUCH! Im not sure how ill carry on knowing that ill never be a better trainer than some random guy who i never met.

[deejd]

The bolded tells me all i need to know about who im arguing with... Mayweather couldnt make weight, nobody gives away $600,000 if they dont have to, especially 'MONEY' Mayweather.

Accusing me of being a stan then hating on Pac, nice. Hes done some incredible things in his career and the fact that he is the second highest draw in America when hes not even from there speaks volumes.

I dont care how good i am at boxing, I started late. I love doing it though so will carry on despite you thinking i'm no good (honestly bro you cut me deep). And the jabs at my training ability, OUCH! Im not sure how ill carry on knowing that ill never be a better trainer than some random guy who i never met.

If you honestly believe that Mayweather couldn't make '44 in 2009, then you haven't been following boxing that long.

There's no question about pacquiao's accomplishments from '22-'30, but to not see what's been going on since his move up to '35, again, it's clear that you are new to the sport.

Couldn't care less when you started, I can tell you've never competed, let alone sparred. Keep condescending, though.

[Tom Cruise]

If you honestly believe that Mayweather couldn't make '44 in 2009, then you haven't been following boxing that long.

There's no question about pacquiao's accomplishments from '22-'30, but to not see what's been going on since his move up to '35, again, it's clear that you are new to the sport.

Couldn't care less when you started, I can tell you've never competed, let alone sparred. Keep condescending, though.

If he could make weight then WHY DIDNT HE?! dont spout some bull about him 'not wanting to'. It cost him cold hard cash to not make weight, In fact your version makes Floyd seem worse! What kind of pr1ck contracts a fight at a weight if he knows he doesnt intend to make it? especially against a fighter moving up two divisions to face him...

in the bold do you not remember me mentioning careful matchmaking earlier? Doesnt change the fact that for a guy his size to beat fighters like clottey, Marg, Cotto, Mosely etc it took SKILL and BALLS to even get in the ring.

Fcuk sake im capitalizing ish now... im going to sleep... Good luck training and fighting.

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