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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #31
    Originally posted by WitherGlove
    Why is it that Manny gets a pass on fighting Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo. And Dulorme get a pass on not want to fight at 154 but Floyd doesn't. Floyd never came in over 150 so he is small but yet people want him to fight middleweights but other guys get a pass why is this? And on the 50 and Floyd beef I think it's legit. I think it won't go far though.
    what a ****** post.

    manny does not get a pass. he gets the same treatment from floyd fans, as floyd gets from the pac fans. and what the hell does dulorme have to do with this?

    the bottom line is, every fighter gets ****. the top ones even more. some of ya'll need to get over the damsel in distress syndrome.

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    • Tom Cruise
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      #32
      Originally posted by deejd
      Right because even when he was ay '47 and Martinez was constantly begging for a fight against Mayweather or pacquiao, nobody was riding Mayweather about going up to '54 and even '60 to fight him.

      Oh wait, yeah, actually there were tons of threads requesting Mayweather to do so.
      So what no one was shouting for manny to move up and fight Cotto at 154 instead of asking for a catchweight?

      Probably only the most hardcore haters would have a pop at floyd for not going up to 160, its best to try ignore them as they are borderline ******ed most of the time. I personally want him to fight the best at 154 because he has proven himself among the best in that division with his win over Cotto, and he has cleaned out the 147 for the most part (barring a clash with Pac which is definitely not on the cards).

      Take off your Floyd blinkers mate, he generates the highest revenue per fight out of anyone on the planet. He doesnt have it so bad! I'd be more worried for him if he didnt have haters...

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      • deejd
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        #33
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise
        So what no one was shouting for manny to move up and fight Cotto at 154 instead of asking for a catchweight?

        Probably only the most hardcore haters would have a pop at floyd for not going up to 160, its best to try ignore them as they are borderline ******ed most of the time. I personally want him to fight the best at 154 because he has proven himself among the best in that division with his win over Cotto, and he has cleaned out the 147 for the most part (barring a clash with Pac which is definitely not on the cards).

        Take off your Floyd blinkers mate, he generates the highest revenue per fight out of anyone on the planet. He doesnt have it so bad! I'd be more worried for him if he didnt have haters...
        How does anyone beating Cotto at '54 prove they're the best in that division? Cotto beaten nobody who is proven at '54 to date and it's hard to find something on Trout's résumé that warrants that [although at least Cotto's fighting a young, hungry competitor].

        Again, the point of the thread is why the double standard. What's wrong with pacquiao or Dulorme fighting the likes of Canelo, Martinez, Cotto, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, etc...

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          #34
          Originally posted by WitherGlove
          Why is it that Manny gets a pass on fighting Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo. And Dulorme get a pass on not want to fight at 154 but Floyd doesn't. Floyd never came in over 150 so he is small but yet people want him to fight middleweights but other guys get a pass why is this? And on the 50 and Floyd beef I think it's legit. I think it won't go far though.
          I would have given your post some thought until you just blatantly lied out of no where, expecting us to just believe the crap you spew. Mayweather came in over 150 for his last fight.

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          • Tom Cruise
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            #35
            Originally posted by deejd
            How does anyone beating Cotto at '54 prove they're the best in that division? Cotto beaten nobody who is proven at '54 to date and it's hard to find something on Trout's résumé that warrants that [although at least Cotto's fighting a young, hungry competitor].

            Again, the point of the thread is why the double standard. What's wrong with pacquiao or Dulorme fighting the likes of Canelo, Martinez, Cotto, Kirkland, Angulo, Lara, etc...
            ok, Paquiao=small welterweight, Mayweather=average to small welterweight.

            Mayweather=small junior middleweight, Paquiao=midget junior middleweight.

            Fans want competitive fights. Pac at junior middle isnt competitive. Pac at welter is. So we want him to fight there. Floyd is competitive at both junior middle and welter but hasnt got any names to fight who he hasnt fought at welter already. So we look at the division which he is world champion in.

            thats why the double standard. Havent seen Dulorme fight so i wont comment on him.

            Thats my last post because i feel like we are just going round in circles here...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              ok, Paquiao=small welterweight, Mayweather=average to small welterweight.

              Mayweather=small junior middleweight, Paquiao=midget junior middleweight.

              Fans want competitive fights. Pac at junior middle isnt competitive. Pac at welter is. So we want him to fight there. Floyd is competitive at both junior middle and welter but hasnt got any names to fight who he hasnt fought at welter already. So we look at the division which he is world champion in.

              thats why the double standard. Havent seen Dulorme fight so i wont comment on him.

              Thats my last post because i feel like we are just going round in circles here...
              Mayweather's highest weigh-in was '51, pacquiao's was '50... so stop it with this midget, small, average deal. Just say you hate Mayweather and you'd get more credit.

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                #37
                Originally posted by deejd
                Mayweather's highest weigh-in was '51, pacquiao's was '50... so stop it with this midget, small, average deal. Just say you hate Mayweather and you'd get more credit.
                You know when I said this? "Thats my last post because i feel like we are just going round in circles here..." well fcuk that cos you just flat out lied...

                Pacs highest weigh in weight is 147 vs bradley, for this he was 'super hydrated to avoid cramps (from Ariza). Vs margarito he weighed a whopping 144.

                I have said throughout this thread that i have massive respect for BOTH of these fighters... I think your just really desperate for me to be a hater because im not agreeing with you...

                Do you actually watch boxing? Or just when Mayweather fights?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                  You know when I said this? "Thats my last post because i feel like we are just going round in circles here..." well fcuk that cos you just flat out lied...

                  Pacs highest weigh in weight is 147 vs bradley, for this he was 'super hydrated to avoid cramps (from Ariza). Vs margarito he weighed a whopping 144.

                  I have said throughout this thread that i have massive respect for BOTH of these fighters... I think your just really desperate for me to be a hater because im not agreeing with you...

                  Do you actually watch boxing? Or just when Mayweather fights?
                  Too bad he re-hydrated to '48 against Margs, you're wrong. Meanwhile, Mayweather is on record stating that he was only '47 going into his bout with Cotto in May.

                  I actually box... and train amateur fighters. Something you don't and, more truthfully, can't do.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deejd
                    Too bad he re-hydrated to '48 against Margs, you're wrong. Meanwhile, Mayweather is on record stating that he was only '47 going into his bout with Cotto in May.

                    I actually box... and train amateur fighters. Something you don't and, more truthfully, can't do.
                    Wait there wasnt any fight night weigh in for the Cotto fight? "Mayweather is on record" doesnt cut it im afraid as he has vested interest being that it makes his win look better, and is an excuse as to why he didnt look as good in this fight...

                    How was Floyd when he weighed in for the Marquez fight? compared to Paquiao? These guys are different sizes. Pac is 2 inches shorter with a 5 inch reach disadvantage and has a visibly smaller frame.

                    again not having a pop at Floyd, great boxer, my p4p no.1 for many years with Pac a fraction behind until recently when Pac has gotten visibly older...

                    Oh and I do train to box btw, my question was meant more as a rhetorical childish insult to be honest i apologise!

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                      #40
                      Pac is a legit WW. Has been for several years now.

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