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  • yoz
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    #21
    LOL.

    I bet Channel 5 were putting pressure on Hennessy to get Fury in the ring with contenders.

    He's nowhere near ready for this.

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    • ddangerous
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      #22
      I think Fury would have been in for an easier night with Price.

      Originally posted by D-MiZe
      Boxing is going down the shitter.

      Not only are there WBC silver, gold, platinum, tin & copper belts but they're starting to introduce semi-eliminators with quarter-eliminators, 1/8th, 1/16th and 2/3rds eliminators too. Lets not forget the WBAs super world championship which is the highest you can go within the WBA, underneath that is the WBA good world championship, WBA decent world championship and the WBA not so good world championship.
      hilarious post.

      Originally posted by duffgun100
      I watched Shavers vs Holmes yesterday, and Norton was on the show saying how it was ****** that one organization recognised Spinks and the other himself and that they need to fight asap to clear the situation up for the people. Just look how things have gone since then utter joke.

      Someone needs to get everyone to sit round a table and create a single body to unify boxing.
      Great post. Could not agree more.

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      • Arthur Daley
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        #23
        Originally posted by D-MiZe
        Look at Burns-Walsh.

        He 'earnt' a WBO ranking by fighting mediocre opposition for a worthless trinket. According to the WBO, that's a credible fight. In the press conference for the fight Burns was embarrassed with his opponent and is receiving unfair flak because of his promoter. But higher than the promoter is the sanctioning bodies who allow these types of fights to happen.

        Arreola-Stiverne is forced by the WBO as a final eliminator, a month or so later and Fury is looking for an opponent. Boytsov is approached and says he'll only fight if it's an eliminator, WBO split the two fights creating semi eliminators and people are praising such magnificent work by the WBO.

        Bravo!
        Boystov and Fury are both ranked in the top 4 by the WBC. Of course their fight should guarantee a mandatory title shot for the winner at some stage. **** sake, why should you even need to be told this?

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        • Mikhnienko
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          #24
          Originally posted by D-MiZe
          You're so blind.

          You make it sound like it was the WBC who forced Fury-Boytsov to fight when Boytsov said he'd only fight Fury if it was for an eliminator. They make it the eliminator and then conveniently change it to a 'semi-eliminator'. You make it sound like WBC are doing it for the fans when in reality they're lining their pockets.

          You think WBC silver belts are good for the sport or the multiple world champions?

          You have no idea and shouldn't have gone off BostonGuy's post, what I said went over his head.
          Boytsov was asking the WBO to make Boytsov-Fury an official eliminator since Boytsov is ranked #1 in their org and Fury #8. In the WBC Boytsov is #3 and Fury #4.

          I wouldn't be suprised if both Boytsov and Fury preferred to make it a WBC eliminator as they probably think they have a better chance against the 41 year old Vitali. Him retiring is also a possibility so they would be fighting the Arreola/Stiverne winner for a vacant belt then which would be a very welcomed thought im sure.
          Last edited by Mikhnienko; 11-02-2012, 10:55 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by duffgun100
            I watched Shavers vs Holmes yesterday, and Norton was on the show saying how it was ****** that one organization recognised Spinks and the other himself and that they need to fight asap to clear the situation up for the people. Just look how things have gone since then utter joke.

            Someone needs to get everyone to sit round a table and create a single body to unify boxing.
            Actually it was Norton who was the joke. Because he didn't have to win his championship in the ring. Because Spinks was stripped of the WBC belt when he rightfully decided to rematch Ali instead of fighting him as the WBC demanded. And I for one don't understand what made Ken Norton eligible for the Hall of Fame?

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            • Daïa
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mikhnienko
              Boytsov was asking the WBO to make Boytsov-Fury an official eliminator since Boytsov is ranked #1 in their org and Fury #8. In the WBC Boytsov is #3 and Fury #4.

              I wouldn't be suprised if both Boytsov and Fury preferred to make it a WBC eliminator as they probably think they have a better chance against the 41 year old Vitali. Him retiring is also a possibility so they would be fighting the Arreola/Stiverne winner for a vacant belt then which would be a very welcomed thought im sure.
              Seems obvious. Vitali is going to leave the game. A lot of "fighters" who ducked the K2 theses last years 'll try to position themselves for the WBC vacant belt.
              At least, it's going to be competitive, and maybe the best available 'll finally stop fighting bums after bums.

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              • Mikhnienko
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                #27
                Originally posted by Daïa
                Seems obvious. Vitali is going to leave the game. A lot of "fighters" who ducked the K2 theses last years 'll try to position themselves for the WBC vacant belt.
                At least, it's going to be competitive, and maybe the best available 'll finally stop fighting bums after bums.
                Well K2 did sign a 5 fight TV extension with RTL so it seems a little more likely that Vitali may have 1 or 2 more fights.

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                • Clegg
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  I support the eliminators. They force the top contenders to fight each other rather than allow fighters to fight lessen opposition, or 'low risk' fights, or to wait on the sidelines like many fighters do after gaining a top ranking.

                  The semi-eliminators are that much better because to get that title shot you have to beat two top opponents.
                  I agree with this, but my problem with the process is that these guys fighting WBC eliminators sometimes don't get a shot. Aydin waited for ages, Kirkland IIRC won a couple with no reward for it, and I don't think Lara is getting a Canelo fight if he beats Vanes regardless of the final eliminator status.

                  But like you say, it does lead to better fights being made, which is great.

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                  • Clegg
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Arthur Daley
                    Boystov and Fury are both ranked in the top 4 by the WBC. Of course their fight should guarantee a mandatory title shot for the winner at some stage. **** sake, why should you even need to be told this?
                    I think the issue is that it doesn't guarantee a mandatory shot, it just means they'll have to fight another eliminator in the future to become mandatory. And considering how long some guys have sat waiting for their WBC title shot, that's not much of a guarantee at all.

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                    • joe strong
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                      Boytsov was asking the WBO to make Boytsov-Fury an official eliminator since Boytsov is ranked #1 in their org and Fury #8. In the WBC Boytsov is #3 and Fury #4.

                      I wouldn't be suprised if both Boytsov and Fury preferred to make it a WBC eliminator as they probably think they have a better chance against the 41 year old Vitali. Him retiring is also a possibility so they would be fighting the Arreola/Stiverne winner for a vacant belt then which would be a very welcomed thought im sure.
                      yeah this route sounds a little safer then being on the end of wladimir's jab...

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