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  • Originally posted by p4p-champ View Post
    It takes time to build of cash-cows, TopRank isn't exactly flooded with them. Manny isn't expandle to TopRank, threw Floyd's hatred into the mix and you have the probablity of the fight never happening.
    So if manny retired tomorrow bob and top rank will go out of business then right since everything is depended on PAC?.... No! Bob will still make his money and be the rich mofo he is now. I'm not defending bob at all but the excuses to blame him is lame. Do u think bob cares that what if manny loses to Floyd even tho bob is gonna make millions off that fight? U guys make it seem like bob is broke and manny is all that he has. Get out of here with that crap! If Manny calls it quit tomorrow bob and top rank will still keep on pushing.

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    • So Pac finally realizes that he will now only be able to take what Floyd gives him? Sad as he could have had a 50-50 split years ago…. He can only blame himself. That or Bob Arum. I blame Bob.

      It's like I said a long time ago, Floyd will give Pac chump change for ducking him and those blood tests. Pac is desperate for a big money fight and if he wants the fight, he will now have to give up big money and what is “fair” as when the offer was fair, Pac said NO. Just like Pac said no to the WW Champion Shane Mosley who got down on his knees and begged Pac and just like Pac said NO to a Cotto rematch. Pac stays saying "NO"…. This is his problem and he will have to deal with walking away from a fair 50-50 share.

      In the meantime, Bob is getting what he wanted out of it all. That is for sure. What’s next Bob? Rios at WW? Don’t act surprised if it happens. Then what? Bradley II? Maybe by that point it will be Pac's last fight. You'll then see Bob make the Mayweather fight and cash out.

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      • Gentlemen. This issue will not be resolved with our own personal opinions so I'm keeping mine out of it. I just look at the facts and all of them are there and when it is said and done and people look back on it then it will become much clearer once the hype officially has died down. I'm out.

        R.I.P
        Floyd/Pacquiao feud.

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        • Like I said weeks ago, we won't know anything until after Pac-JMM 4. Because the last time they were trying to make the fight, January 2012, it was 50-50 or no fight. Where was the 55-45 talk back then??? Manny didn't say one word about accepting 55-45 when they were trying to make the fight in January. He said it after accepting a fight against Marquez.

          So we won't know what's what until after that fight.

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          • Am i the only one that truly believes pac will lose again to jmm? I mean some saying floyd should start negots or talking but why. If pac losss again than all this talk is done and talk of how floyd avoided him when he was prime begins. Or he can fight him and not get credit cause he lost already. Not to mention if pac wins and looks like crap again then 55/45 is out the window too. I alreafy think its 60/40 for floyd. Overall pac must first beat jmm and thats not an easy mountain to climb.

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            • The whole bob is keeping manny away from Floyd until his very last fight makes zero sense in a business point of view. If manny continue to fight and loses how is the Floyd vs PAC fight will generate big money?? Just stop with that excuse already.

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              • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Gentlemen. This issue will not be resolved with our own personal opinions so I'm keeping mine out of it. I just look at the facts and all of them are there and when it is said and done and people look back on it then it will become much clearer once the hype officially has died down. I'm out.

                R.I.P
                Floyd/Pacquiao feud.
                Bob will resurrect it for Pac’s last fight. Bob will pull out the life support and pump hype to the media. Much like he built Pac’s career with past it fighters who where “bigger”… Bob will make it all happen and he will hype the **** out of it.

                He’s only been making fights for decades and I have faith he will make the fight but only when HE wants to. So as much as I hate Bob, I have full faith that he will make it happen when he really wants it and exhausted all his other options first. Bob will milk Manny and then make the fight that nobody will want anymore.

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                • Originally posted by rasdun View Post
                  these are the fans that have no clue. Floyd never earned 60 mil for a fight but I guarantee he would turn that down for a Pac fight. Why? bc PPV gate and sponsors makes the fight worth hundreds of millions. that offer by floyd was intended to make it seem like he made an offer when everyone who knows anything about boxing knows that offer was a farce and not even 20% of the total revenue.
                  but ur obvioulsy not thinkin ratioanly if u say pac lost the bradley fight. he won more rds than floyd did vs cotto. even Maywethr sr. admitted Pac won. but, even if u wanna say 0 judges made the call, then how can u say he lost Marquez III fight - cant have it both ways playa


                  What sane person thinks Floyd vs Cotto was close? Manny got outworked by Bradley and JMM. If you had a clue you would know Floyd had the largest purse in boxing history vs Cotto and Floyd has cleared 60 mill (or close to it) after PPV a few (Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto) times. Floyd could again break the bank against Alvarez or a 2nd fight with Cotto not to mention a big money fight with Bradley. Manny needs Floyd but Floyd damn sure doesn't need Manny.

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                  • Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                    Am i the only one that truly believes pac will lose again to jmm? I mean some saying floyd should start negots or talking but why. If pac losss again than all this talk is done and talk of how floyd avoided him when he was prime begins. Or he can fight him and not get credit cause he lost already. Not to mention if pac wins and looks like crap again then 55/45 is out the window too. I alreafy think its 60/40 for floyd. Overall pac must first beat jmm and thats not an easy mountain to climb.
                    And the table can easily be turn, if PAC wins in a good way more road blocks from Floyd so why even speak up now. That's what Floyd is prolly thinking. Why call PAC out on his bluff now what if he KO Marquez then I'm gonna be in deep shiietz.

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                    • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                      So Pac finally realizes that he will now only be able to take what Floyd gives him? Sad as he could have had a 50-50 split years ago…. He can only blame himself. That or Bob Arum. I blame Bob.

                      It's like I said a long time ago, Floyd will give Pac chump change for ducking him and those blood tests. Pac is desperate for a big money fight and if he wants the fight, he will now have to give up big money and what is “fair” as when the offer was fair, Pac said NO. Just like Pac said no to the WW Champion Shane Mosley who got down on his knees and begged Pac and just like Pac said NO to a Cotto rematch. Pac stays saying "NO"…. This is his problem and he will have to deal with walking away from a fair 50-50 share.

                      In the meantime, Bob is getting what he wanted out of it all. That is for sure. What’s next Bob? Rios at WW? Don’t act surprised if it happens. Then what? Bradley II? Maybe by that point it will be Pac's last fight. You'll then see Bob make the Mayweather fight and cash out.
                      again - that was '09. thats all floyd fans have. and he wouldve found a reason to back out at that point anyway. but regardless - floyd has done nothing since 09 to help make this fight. Arum has hurt the fight just as much, but arum dont have no legacy.
                      and, ur wrong. boxing historians will always remembr floyd for duckin, not Manny. no one has ever accused Manny for duckin - why bc he didnt want Mosely at that point. pls Manny won lineal titles in 4 weight classes- 112, 126, 130 and 140. and thats not including the fact that he beat the top 122 lb fighter to win that title. - no one has ever done that, not even floyd (he has 3). and Pac fought so many great fighters in his prime - Marquez III, Barrera II, Morales III alone is 8 fights vs HOF fighters. this run at 147 is just the cherry on top of a great career. so, again, theres no way people will remembr Pac for duckin - only floyd fans could say such a preposterous thing. whereas floyd has been accused of it for many yrs

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