sillakh then dulorme..is rigo next?

[IronDanHamza]

I always viewed the "interim" title as the official number one contender essentially. I don't know if that's how the organisations do it though.

I think they might.

Honestly, I'm not sure myself.

Most of the time, I struggle to keep in-touch with who has what specific belt and so forth.

[New England]

Rigondeaux is a prospect. Despite his age.

He's 11 fights into his career, and unproven.

he's the number two 122 lber in the world and he's been in the top 10 for two years now. he was moved very quickly because of his age and his extensive amateur background. he's a contender to donaire's 122 lb title. by definition he is not a prospect. i do agree that he's very much a mystery at this stage. he's got a complicated career.

he's gotten his chin checked a bit, but other than the cordoba fight he's made an easy time of guys that are indeed a proving ground at 122, as bad as they might be. they're not good fighters, but ramos, for example, was a top 5 122 lber when he fought rigo. in fact, i think he was number two, according to the ring.

[Prince_Pugilist]

either way it seems to be the fight everyone wants besides some donaire fans

I really, really wanted the Nishioka fight and got it!
Donaire has fought almost everyone worth fighting. Talent wise, Rigo deserves a shot but the Cuban hasn't done much to deserve the call up.

[New England]

I think they might.

Honestly, I'm not sure myself.

Most of the time, I struggle to keep in-touch with who has what specific belt and so forth.

i do my best to stay out of touch with them, brother


i am pretty sure we could get a drinking contest sanctioned for a WBA belt if we could afford the sanctioning fee.

[IronDanHamza]

he's the number two 122 lber in the world and he's been in the top 10 for two years now. he was moved very quickly because of his age and his extensive amateur background. he's a contender to donaire's 122 lb title. by definition he is not a prospect.

he's gotten his chin checked a bit, but other than the cordoba fight he's made an easy time of guys that are indeed a proving ground at 122, as bad as they might be. they're not good fighters, but ramos, for example, was a top 5 122 lber when he fought rigo.

I understand but he's still unproven at this point. He may hold a paper title but that doesn't mean he's still not a prospect to me.

Let's say, for arguments sake, this time next year Carl Frampton get's a win over Rico Ramos. Again, for arguments sake. (A fight wit Ramos is being talked about at the moment)

Then, let's say he get's a big win over the Quigg-Munroe winner in a big domestic clash.

He would have been in the Top 10 for over a year, would have 2 wins over Top 5-10 fighters and a good amateur pedigree and around 15 fights (Not sure on the exact number)

Would he not be a prospect at this point?

[IronDanHamza]

i do my best to stay out of touch with them, brother


i am pretty sure we could get a drinking contest sanctioned for a WBA belt if we could afford the sanctioning fee.

So do I!

It really is difficult to keep up these days.

[Bermuda]

all that's left for donaire at 122 is rigo and mares vs moreno winner..and i'm sure donaire vs rigo will fight in 2013. donaire just got to 122 early this year and he's done a lot so far...won the wbo, ibf, and the ring belt in one year. no other fighter this year has accomplished as much as donaire has.

[New England]

I understand but he's still unproven at this point. He may hold a paper title but that doesn't mean he's still not a prospect to me.

Let's say, for arguments sake, this time next year Carl Frampton get's a win over Rico Ramos. Again, for arguments sake. (A fight wit Ramos is being talked about at the moment)

Then, let's say he get's a big win over the Quigg-Munroe winner in a big domestic clash.

He would have been in the Top 10 for over a year, would have 2 wins over Top 5-10 fighters and a good amateur pedigree and around 15 fights (Not sure on the exact number)

Would he not be a prospect at this point?

that's a lesser resume than rigondeaux, but i'd be willing to call him a contender if the wins put him into contention, to give a watered down answer. ramos isn't the # 2 ranked jr FW anymore, either. i'm not incredibly familiar with your british boys over there, so i'd have to look closer at it to give a final NE ruling.



rigo is still a mystery, though. on that we can agree.
i tend to think he's not the goods.

[garfios]

all that's left for donaire at 122 is rigo and mares vs moreno winner..and i'm sure donaire vs rigo will fight in 2013. donaire just got to 122 early this year and he's done a lot so far...won the wbo, ibf, and the ring belt in one year. no other fighter this year has accomplished as much as donaire has.

Let c, Rigondeaux is a paper Champ because he won the belt from Ramos that won it from the japanese Champion, and Nonito won the vacant belt from Vazquez II that the first time he fought a semi-legit contender (Arce was supossed to be his first real test) loss by KO, I said semi-legit because we all know where Arce ranks now, then he fought the great and know Mathebula and after that Nishioka, a 36 years old retired fighter that was idle for over a year and came for the check, if those ppl deserve a fight with donaire, I'm sure that the #2 in the division should get that fight, ppl are saying that GR is not proven then why Nd is making up so many excuses? whatever you guys are saying they still have to fight, I'll root for GR but I don't know who will win, I prefer for Rigondeaux to have a couple of fights against the likes of Adbeko and Darchinyan that will give him more experience and more important, confidence, althought he thinks he is ready now, why Nonitos fans are against this fight is beyond me?

[IronDanHamza]

that's a lesser resume than rigondeaux, but i'd be willing to call him a contender if the wins put him into contention, to give a watered down answer. ramos isn't the # 2 ranked jr FW anymore, either. i'm not incredibly familiar with your british boys over there, so i'd have to look closer at it to give a final NE ruling.



rigo is still a mystery, though. on that we can agree.
i tend to think he's not the goods.

I wouldn't say it's much lesser of a resume than Rigondeaux's.

I'd say his win over Molitor is as good as any win Rigondeaux has to date.

And agreed, Ramos isn't the #2 ranked guy anymore but let's face it, Ramos isn't very good and isn't much worse, if worse at all than he was when he fought Rigondeaux.

His resume certainly would be right next to Rigondeaux's at the very least if he were to beat Ramos and Quigg-Munroe winner.

My point is, I think both guys are unproven at this point. And unproven to me=prospect. That's with a paper title or not.

And I'm with you on that one, friend.

I think Rigondeaux has skills, but I'm not sold on him at all.