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  • #11
    Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
    He just won his fight in spectacular fashion and is getting better every fight. Give him his props. No one is saying he's the next ATG 140 lber. Danny Garcia is a very good fighter. Bottom line.
    Yea this is standard for whenever a young fighter wins big. Don't take threads like this too seriously.

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    • #12
      If Cool Vince Phillips stopped Tszyu then why couldnt Danny Garcia?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
        Always gotta be these threads:

        "Floyd would get killed by Tommy Hearns"

        "Manny would get destroyed by Ray Leonard"

        "The Klitschko's would get killed by a prime George Foreman"

        When you gotta go back a few generations to prove your point you are really grasping hard.

        Garcia has a real challenge with Matthysse and some fun fights with Josesito or Broner moving up in a year or so.
        I agree going back several generations is reaching but mrpain you do realize the era Im talking about was only 6 years ago. Hardly a "generation" away is it.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Derranged View Post
          Yea this is standard for whenever a young fighter wins big. Don't take threads like this too seriously.
          This isn't bashing Garcia this is meant to put him in to perspective. So far he's done everything right and been impressive but it's against weak competition. Now the level of competition is not Garcia's fault understand that because I do. However, the hype machine ready to anoint him as a killer is far too premature. All I'm saying is before we start placing Garcia on the p4p list we need him to prove he deserves to be there by beating elite guys. For the last part he will likely have to move up.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by lparm View Post
            I agree going back several generations is reaching but mrpain you do realize the era Im talking about was only 6 years ago. Hardly a "generation" away is it.
            It's the same lazy rhetoric that's been used to discredit fighters since the beginning of time. Garcia is improving and he's willing to fight the top guys, I don't understand the hate he's getting.

            I do think his dad is ******ed but it's not like he choose that guy to be his father.

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            • #16
              Right now he's squeaked some wins, but at 24, he's still hasnt hit his prime. He could end up getting better.

              One thing is for sure, he looked heavier and faster this time around against Morales.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
                It's the same lazy rhetoric that's been used to discredit fighters since the beginning of time. Garcia is improving and he's willing to fight the top guys, I don't understand the hate he's getting.

                I do think his dad is ******ed but it's not like he choose that guy to be his father.
                How is this lazy rhetoric? I'm stating a factual based opinion. Khan was a product of hype and no one was calling him p4p ever then Garcia beats him good win but weak opposition. Morales is an ATG but at a much lower weight and his prime effectively ended in 2006 so it's not that good of a victory in my eyes.

                Garcia is young and he has time but all I'm saying is some need to slow down on the hype. Shit I even read someone posting about Garcia's KO being the best left hook KO in history, in ***** history!!! Wow so let's ignore the goat SRR wiping out the legendary mw champ fulmer with a left hook and call Garcia's the greatest. That's the kind of hype I'm hoping I can help people see is misplaced.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
                  Always gotta be these threads:

                  "Floyd would get killed by Tommy Hearns"

                  "Manny would get destroyed by Ray Leonard"

                  "The Klitschko's would get killed by a prime George Foreman"

                  When you gotta go back a few generations to prove your point you are really grasping hard.

                  Garcia has a real challenge with Matthysse and some fun fights with Josesito or Broner moving up in a year or so.
                  Indeed, I still think Matthysse will be a very hard fight for Garcia but it should be one heck of a scrap.

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                  • #19
                    He has slightly above average power, is a good, not special but good fighter and yes much of his success is product of circumstance but good for him for being a fighter at this time and having taken advantage of the chances he has gotten can't knock the guy.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by lparm View Post
                      How is this lazy rhetoric? I'm stating a factual based opinion. Khan was a product of hype and no one was calling him p4p ever then Garcia beats him good win but weak opposition. Morales is an ATG but at a much lower weight and his prime effectively ended in 2006 so it's not that good of a victory in my eyes.

                      Garcia is young and he has time but all I'm saying is some need to slow down on the hype. Shit I even read someone posting about Garcia's KO being the best left hook KO in history, in ***** history!!! Wow so let's ignore the goat SRR wiping out the legendary mw champ fulmer with a left hook and call Garcia's the greatest. That's the kind of hype I'm hoping I can help people see is misplaced.

                      It's a lazy way to discredit a fighter, instead of just saying why you think he sucks or why you don't like him, you compare him to other generations to prove your point.

                      But sure every other week people cream their pants here for a good performance.

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