Donaire/Rigondeaux = Ward/Bute

[Light_Speed]

After Ward won the super 6, there was a lot of pressure from the boxing world to make the Bute fight happen. Ward surprisingly dismissed the fight and said Bute needed to prove himself. After Bute lost to Froch, Ward explained why he turned down Bute :

"It would’ve been great to come off the Super Six Tournament and beat Bute but it doesn’t always work like that. In this sport, the business side of it is like a game of chess and you try to make the best moves you can in the moment and I stand by my decision to have Lucian Bute fight somebody."

"A lot of writers and a lot of media, they pumped [Bute] up to be the best guy in the division. I never said I was the best guy but I didn’t feel like he was the best guy simply because he hadn’t fought the best."

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560722

And Bute is a big draw in his country, sells 15k to 20k tickets everytime he fights. So why didn't Ward fight him? Same reason why Lopez didn't fight Gamboa right away, same reason why Mares didn't fight Moreno right away, etc. : they wanted to milk the fight. Why fight the guy right away when you can wait, create more demand and maximize revenue? Business 101.

That's exactly what Donaire is doing. Why fight Rigondeaux right now for peanuts when the guy hasn't beaten a marquee name? That would be a dumb move.

[4Corners]

Not quite.

Ward didn't fight Bute, but he fought Carl Froch and Chad Dawson. All he said was Bute needed to fight a Top SMW first, the best guys he'd fought were Bika and Andrade. Still, I wouldn't have minded Ward-Bute.

Donaire isn't fighting Rigondeaux, and fought Vazquez Jr and Mathebula, and probably won't fight Mares/Moreno given they're with Golden Boy.

[4Corners]

Also, comparing Bute and Rigondeaux is a pretty sick joke, no offense.

[Light_Speed]

Not quite.

Ward didn't fight Bute, but he fought Carl Froch and Chad Dawson. All he said was Bute needed to fight a Top SMW first, the best guys he'd fought were Bika and Andrade. Still, I wouldn't have minded Ward-Bute.

Donaire isn't fighting Rigondeaux, and fought Vazquez Jr and Mathebula, and probably won't fight Mares/Moreno given they're with Golden Boy.

He fought Dawson after turning down Bute.

LOL Donaire is saying the same thing about Rigo.

Donaire also fought Nishioka who was the #1 SBW. That's the 3rd time he demolished a division kingpin.

Also, comparing Bute and Rigondeaux is a pretty sick joke, no offense.

I'm comparing the situations. Bute actually had much more bargaining power to demand a fight.

[bojangles1987]

Rigondeaux should fight Darchinyan or Agbeko. Both want to fight him, and an impressive win puts the pressure for the fight at a level where Arum can't keep Donaire and Rigo away, no matter what he thinks or Donaire says. If Donaire's hand is injured than he won't be fighting any time soon anyway, right? Let Rigo whoop one of those two fighters' asses and raise the pressure.

Also, I highly doubt Rigo would ever get brutalized like Bute did by someone like Carl Froch. He's definitely better than that.

[4Corners]

He fought Dawson after turning down Bute.

LOL Donaire is saying the same thing about Rigo.

Donaire also fought Nishioka who was the #1 SBW. That's the 3rd time he demolished a division kingpin.


I'm comparing the situations. Bute actually had much more bargaining power to demand a fight.

People were talking about a possible Ward-Bute fight right before his fight with Froch too, much like people begun talking about Donaire-Rigo right before his fight with Vazquez Jr.

Ward didn't fight Bute and fought #10 P4P Dawson. Donaire opted to fight Mathebula. Had Bute beaten Froch, I'm sure he would have been next after Dawson. But he lost to Froch.

Nishioka was a good win, his 3rd best win. A very good win. But if he doesn't fight Mares/Moreno and/or Rigondeaux before leaving 122, it's a MAJOR let down.

[4Corners]

I'd like to see Rigondeaux fight Agbeko or Darchinyan, or even a Shimoda or Ndlovu wouldn't be bad. They're Top 10.

Too bad Carl Frampton doesn't want to fight Rigondeaux. Rigo said he'd go to Belfast to fight Frampton.

Donaire-Rigondeaux will never happen. It's like Canelo-Lara in terms how likely it is that it could happen.

[Heru]

Ward had to recover from an injury after the Froch fight; he wasn't going to setup a fight against Bute right after the Froch fight if he wasn't going to be ready and Bute and his team probably wouldn't have waited for him (they even bypassed Showtime and HBO rejecting the fight to stage the Froch fight). If he would've gotten past Froch this wouldn't even be an issue because the fight would be scheduled (or already have taken place).

It's as if Mayweather told Bradley that he needed to prove himself for a fight him (before going to jail and Bradley having a fight against Pacquiao on deck).

I doubt Donaire would reject a Rigondeaux fight, but Top Rank pulls the strings and if they don't fancy their talented, popular, Filipino-American (meaning he has an established market in the US as opposed to the Cuban-American market), charismatic, burgeoning star Donaire against the non-English speaking Rigondeaux the fight won't happen; it is that simple.

This is similar to the Gamboa-Lopez situation. Arum kept on using stalling tactics because Lopez was not going to fight Gamboa at any point since they didn't think that their darling would win. They coach their fighters on how to answer questions without mentioning certain fighters and avoid those questions altogether.

Arum would never make a Mares-Moreno fight for similar reasons. He's probably laughing at GBP because of that fight in particular. He ****ted on them for making the Ortiz-Maidana fight for putting Victor against a power punching Argentinian. It's all about the bottom line with that gluttonous turd.

[Light_Speed]

Ward had to recover from an injury after the Froch fight; he wasn't going to setup a fight against Bute right after the Froch fight if he wasn't going to be ready and Bute and his team probably wouldn't have waited for him (they even bypassed Showtime and HBO rejecting the fight to stage the Froch fight). If he would've gotten past Froch this wouldn't even be an issue because the fight would be scheduled (or already have taken place).

It's as if Mayweather told Bradley that he needed to prove himself for a fight him (before going to jail and Bradley having a fight against Pacquiao on deck).

I doubt Donaire would reject a Rigondeaux fight, but Top Rank pulls the strings and if they don't fancy their talented, popular, Filipino-American (meaning he has an established market in the US as opposed to the Cuban-American market), charismatic, burgeoning star Donaire against the non-English speaking Rigondeaux the fight won't happen; it is that simple.

This is similar to the Gamboa-Lopez situation. Arum kept on using stalling tactics because Lopez was not going to fight Gamboa at any point since they didn't think that their darling would win. They coach their fighters on how to answer questions without mentioning certain fighters and avoid those questions altogether.

Arum would never make a Mares-Moreno fight for similar reasons. He's probably laughing at GBP because of that fight in particular. He ****ted on them for making the Ortiz-Maidana fight for putting Victor against a power punching Argentinian. It's all about the bottom line with that gluttonous turd.

Come to think of it, all the cuban fighters are getting shafted. Gamboa didn't get the Lopez fight, Lara probably won't get the Canelo fight even if he beats Vanes, and Rigo doesn't look like he's gonna get the Donaire fight anytime soon.

The big promoters don't even try to cater to the cuban american market. Cuban fighters need to sign with Acquinity Sports, this company stages a lot of events in Florida and the arenas are always packed. Look them up.

[Bermuda]

not to mention rigo and bute both have questionable chins...