Comments Thread For: Donaire: If No Challenges at 122, I'll Move Up To 126

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  • Bermuda
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    #41
    Originally posted by rey guey
    Donaire did the same siht at 118. he beat Montiel but that's the only legit 118 guy he fought at 118. he then declares he's moving up for more of a challenge but without having fought anybody at the weight.

    122 was a pretty weak divison but as soon as Mares Moreno and Rigondeaux start coming on the scene he's talking about moving up?

    baiscally people love Donaire because of 1 super KO.

    does beating these guys really make you p4p great? considering when better fighters are out there.

    Omar Narvaez
    Wilfredo Vazquez Jr
    Jeffrey Mathebula
    Toshiaki Nishioka
    donaire tried to make a fight with moreno, but moreno priced himself out..this is common knowledge. and mares decided to rematch agbeko since the first fight was total bs with the reffing and the crazy amount of low blows. plus people were complaining about wanting donaire to move up and that he was picking on small fighters at 118.

    i would like donaire to at least try and fight rigo before moving up. i can understand that getting a fight with the mares vs moreno winne might be close to impossile considering the feud with gbp and top rank. so if donaire fights and beats rigo then he can move up.

    also....

    Omar Narvaez - two weight world champion, undefeated, the #1 guy at super flyweight

    Wilfredo Vazquez Jr - former wbo world champion, ranked in the top ten best sbw, only one loss, young with good power

    Jeffrey Mathebula - ranked the 5th best sbw, IBF world champion, huge for 122 (he's like 5'11"), NO ONE has looked good against this guy...

    Toshiaki Nishioka - ranked #1 in the sbw division, hadn't lost in 8 years, the real WBC champ (mares is a fake 122 champ imo since he beat morel for the vacant belt)

    so donaire's last 4 opponents have been former champs and current champs. and three of these wins were in this year alone.
    Last edited by Bermuda; 10-15-2012, 10:11 AM.

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    • SceneSpectator!
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      #42
      Nonito has just made his assignment done by defeating the no.1 of the division! Mares and Rigo should fight to settle who's best, and the clear winner must face Nonito, and there's no excuse for Nonito of running away from the best of the two. But if you think Nonito will face one after the other in super bantam, then Nonito should better go forward to 126 to face the stars on that divisions rather than rotted in Super Bantamweight division!

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      • TOBYLEE1
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        #43
        There are a few challenges at 122 lb. The winner of Mares/Moreno would be the obvious choice.

        I'm not sold on Rigo, he could easily stink up the place once he gets hit and goes on the defensive mode which is more than likely that he would do. Plus he has done the least of the other guys but he has only 11 fights. Need to see more of him

        At FW you got Salido, Caballero, John, PDL, Mikey Garcia, Dib, Arce, Gonzalez, Lopez, Hosono...a bunch of fighters that he can make money with. Other than Mares the bigger money is up in FW

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        • -Johannes-
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          #44
          Originally posted by titan_1987
          Yes. I still stand that Donaire- Rigon is NOT a marketable fight. Just like with Mathebula and Narvaez. Fights that were made only to stay relevant.
          SMH...
          Originally posted by titan_1987
          It's like this. Donaire was asked a legit question. He answered it frankly. If Donaire doesn't want to fight Rigon, then who the hell cares? Rigon can make a name for himself by fighting the likes of Vasquez, arce et al and make a name for himself first and make himself recognizable among the casual fans, thereby insuring him and his promoter leverage for bigger monetary fights in the future. With his skill set, he shouldn't be limited to 122 lb division. And if in the near future, Donaire still stays at the high perch he's in, then they can make the fight with lesser excuses.

          And if and maybe if Donaire still refuses to give Rigon a chance, then fawk Nonito.
          Do you realize how big Rigo is? He's by no means a 126 pounder. Read the title he says he'll move up to 122 if there are no challenges. CHALLENGES, not money fights. I don't care what you say but it's obvious that Donaire doesn't want to fight Rigondeaux for whatever reason, which isn't by any means justifiable.

          The fight is marketable, you claim it isn't to justify Nonito's excuses.

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          • -Johannes-
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            #45
            Originally posted by titan_1987
            Yes. I still stand that Donaire- Rigon is NOT a marketable fight. Just like with Mathebula and Narvaez. Fights that were made only to stay relevant.
            Mathebula was a unification bout my man.

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            • fraubau
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              #46
              Originally posted by -Johannes-
              SMH...


              Do you realize how big Rigo is? He's by no means a 126 pounder. Read the title he says he'll move up to 122 if there are no challenges. CHALLENGES, not money fights. I don't care what you say but it's obvious that Donaire doesn't want to fight Rigondeaux for whatever reason, which isn't by any means justifiable.

              The fight is marketable, you claim it isn't to justify Nonito's excuses.
              at this point, marketable? no i dont think it would be. we would've heard from bob by now if it was. BUT donaire sure is starting to sound like a duck. now im generous, say give 'im the benefit of doubt. rigo on his part should get one more fight, preferably someone w/ a big name. now dont ask me who, i've no idea. but if he wins and donaire still wouldnt fight him? ah, that would really clear things up.

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              • -Makunouchi-
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                #47
                WTF, who do you think is a better Challenge? Salido, Gamboa or ****ing Rigo and Mares.. You people always talk **** about dodging, the fact that donaire is moving up is about the money, The money is on the higher weight class! Donaire is not getting any younger and he does not need all of your dumb arguments about ducking rigo or mares, coz believe me they don't promise paycheck for donaire than Gamboa and the other weight class promises! Haters always gonna hate. Why not ask floyd to fight **** than ask donaire to fight unproven fighters whos biggest win is against cordoba!!

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                • fraubau
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kencross27
                  WTF, who do you think is a better Challenge? Salido, Gamboa or ****ing Rigo and Mares.. You people always talk **** about dodging, the fact that donaire is moving up is about the money, The money is on the higher weight class! Donaire is not getting any younger and he does not need all of your dumb arguments about ducking rigo or mares, coz believe me they don't promise paycheck for donaire than Gamboa and the other weight class promises! Haters always gonna hate. Why not ask floyd to fight **** than ask donaire to fight unproven fighters whos biggest win is against cordoba!!
                  but he said he wanted challenges, not money. is he a hypocrite then?

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                  • -Makunouchi-
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by fraubau
                    but he said he wanted challenges, not money. is he a hypocrite then?
                    Can't you get both? If he gets up he gets both? Who do you think would pay better and sell better? A fight with Gamboa or a Fight with Rigo or Mares.. Simple as that you answer your question!

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                    • MikeRo1972
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                      #50
                      Hey Nonito, don't say there aren't any challenges because the Cuban in your division is a clear challenge to your P4P status. Just be honest and say if I can make more money at 126 then that's where I'll fight. But don't act like your looking for "challenges" when you're looking for "paydays". It's ok, you've paid your dues.

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