Will Floyd end up like Roy Jones?

[lyonheart]

Roy was unorthodox. Yes he was. But, to say he was only reflexes and athleticism is pretty ******. He used his style paired with IQ to set traps. Have you ever heard him break a fight down/ His problem was he refused to adapt. That is why he hasnt had much success once he slowed down. He knows everything there is to know about the sport. The weight drop after the Ruiz fight at the age of 34, was killer to his career. I also dont buy he tarnished his legacy. Many all time greats went beyond their prime and looked like hell. No one mentions Ali losing to Trevor Berbick or Sugar Ray Leonard getting ko's by Camacho. But, Roy was not just an athlete that put on boxing gloves. He's been fighting since he was child. He knows the sport, knows everything about it. He just refused to adapt his style according to where he was at physically, not because of a lack of knowledge.

[ironmike2012]

He probably will, it seems like all the greats fight way too long. There have only been so many that have walked away champs and never came back. He needs to be smart with his money, so he won't have to comeback, once he is done for good.

[RealIzm]

You mean a legend and future Hall of Famer?

I see no doubt in my mind.

[I Love Jesus!]

Roy Jones depended on his athleticism and reflexes. He was never the most techinically sound fighter in the game. His style just didn't age well. It didn't help that, at age 35 he went from heavyweight to light heavyweight. Losing all that muscle affected his power and reflexes and he was never the same after the Ruiz fight.


Floyd is a defensive wizard whose style as aged extremely well. He doesn't rely as much on his legs and natural athleticism as he did in the lower weight classes. Plus he hasn't taken much punishment throughout is career, and fights only once or at most twice a year. He's a young 35 and I think he be a much more effective fighter than Roy into his late 30s/early 40s if he wanted to.

But from his recent interviews it sounds like he wants to focus more on his promotional venture rather than his boxing career.

That is such bull crap/ The weight loss only effected him in the first tarver fight which he won. After that he had plenty of time to heel from the weight loss and he had Mackie shilstone. What effected him was getting knocked out twice in a row.

[Achille]

Roy was unorthodox. Yes he was. But, to say he was only reflexes and athleticism is pretty ******. He used his style paired with IQ to set traps. Have you ever heard him break a fight down/ His problem was he refused to adapt. That is why he hasnt had much success once he slowed down. He knows everything there is to know about the sport. The weight drop after the Ruiz fight at the age of 34, was killer to his career. I also dont buy he tarnished his legacy. Many all time greats went beyond their prime and looked like hell. No one mentions Ali losing to Trevor Berbick or Sugar Ray Leonard getting ko's by Camacho. But, Roy was not just an athlete that put on boxing gloves. He's been fighting since he was child. He knows the sport, knows everything about it. He just refused to adapt his style according to where he was at physically, not because of a lack of knowledge.

real talk, co-sign!

[-Kev-]

Yet another Roy thread.

Again I ask, what is it with these Roy threads lately?

[IronDanHamza]

If Mayweather keeps fighting he will lose.

[Achille]

That is such bull crap/ The weight loss only effected him in the first tarver fight which he won. After that he had plenty of time to heel from the weight loss and he had Mackie shilstone. What effected him was getting knocked out twice in a row.

Roy didn't use Mackie for the first fight with Tarver. He used him to bulk up for Ruiz and for Tarver 2.

Here's the interview with Mackie and he even says the weight lost did hurt Roy. I think I will take Mackie's word on the subject rather then some boxing fans theory.


********** : EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MACKIE SHILSTONE

June 12, 2008
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MACKIE SHILSTONE
By Krishen Rangi

How much of an issue is a fighter moving up taking the naturally bigger guy's shots. What have Spinks, Jones, Hopkins, guys like that said about their ability to absorb punches at higher weights?

I don't know of any fighter in the business of taking punches. Depends on the fighter if he has the power to take the punches. It's as much mental as it is physical. In the Jones/Ruiz fight we wanted to break his nose, that was the plan. We knew Ruiz had broken his nose in the Holyfield fight, and Roy broke his nose in the 6th round. He couldn't breathe out of it after that.


What happened to Roy Jones when he went back down to light-heavyweight to fight Tarver after you had helped him move up and beat Ruiz for the heavyweight title?

You have to remember Roy is such a talented athlete. The muscle that was put on is very difficult to take off. It was a very tough fight. Draining to anyone but he ended up winning. The same thing happened to Tarver when he did the Rocky movie. He was in the 220s then he came down and he was compromised against Bernard. I would have liked to see Roy stay at heavyweight, and I told him that. I think Roy would have beaten Tyson. I think Roy would have beaten Holyfield, but the fights weren't there. Muscle is not easy to take off, it affects your immune system.

How much did Roy weigh for the Ruiz fight?

200 lbs.


There was a story circulating he had weights in his pocket and he really weighed 193.

Before we went down for the weigh-in we were all kidding what Roy would weigh. Roy had been in the range of 199-200. What happened was Roy got on the scale and a fight broke out between Alton Merkerson and Ruiz's camp. Mark Ratner who was doing the weigh-in never let the scale adjust because the fight had broke out. I know Mark, and told him that's not his weight you should correct it. When Roy went to the hotel room and got on the scale he was laughing and saying "I can't believe it". He takes his shirt off and steps on the scale, and this is on the documentary ESPN did called "The Sweet Science". Mark Ratner was there too. I told him to call HBO so they wouldn't think it was rebound weight and they mentioned that on the broadcast.

[Zeus Molecules]

God I hope not. As big as a RJJ fan as I am I still wish he would just hang up the gloves and move on to commentating full time. I think Floyd will probably hang it up soon before he is age catches up to him.

[djtmal]

If Mayweather keeps fighting he will lose.

irondanhamza, i'm in line with ya on this one...i do feel, that floyd mayweather jr., despite his good defense, will be getting hit a lot more as he continues to fight past his prime...just the law of gravity, when you have a fighter who was as dominant as he was...should be interesting, because we get to see what floyd mayweather jr., is made of, when an opponent isn't afraid, or is just able, to exchange with him...i saw a little bit of it in the cotto fight...