Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Bush think about what you are saying:

You say sergio smashes floyd and thats a fight you want to see. Then you say ward would smash sergio but you don't want to see that fight.

I think the only difference is you want to see floyd get smashed but not sergio. if thats the case fine, just be honest about it.

Exactly...

Thats what I told him hes sitting here hyping up Martinez vs. Mayweather for the very same reason he wont entertain Ward-Martinez. He claims both fights will be blowouts but he only wants to see ONE of them.

[The Big Dunn]

Well Martinez just did big business, regardless of how the a side or b-side was so realistically now is his best chance to press for the fight.

Canelo probably does bring more though.

Generally speaking though Floyd does big business with anyone, so there is only so much leverage anyone has on him which is the problem with the Manny fight, Floyd can march to his own drummer and has/can still do great and while Manny can still outdo everyone else he can't out do Floyd.

Still Floyd isn't a 154 pounder he just sometimes fights there against select opposition~

for the money he can earn from an odh, cotto, and canelo floyd will gladly go to 154. Id bet he'd go to 160 to fight Chavez jr.

[The Gambler1981]

Yes, hypocrites usually say that, good luck bro.

Look in the mirror~ you know what you will see?

A hypocrite who can't even defend his position, someday maybe you will get it but I don't count on that.

Such a laughable response ~

[Bushbaby]

we have debated alot and I have never attributed something to you that you didn't say. It would be odd for me to start out of the blue, today, in a thread that I have agreed with many of your points.

Yes, yes you have. It's funny however that you would support him fighting ginger, (while claiming ginger doesn't deserve the fight), then call me a hypocrite.

[Bushbaby]

Look in the mirror~ you know what you will see?

A hypocrite who can't even defend his position, someday maybe you will get it but I don't count on that.

Such a laughable response ~

What, look in the mirror & see you??

I've defended my position. Martinez cannot compete with Ward at 168, a weight he's never been.

But Floyd can compete with Martinez at 154, where's he's now a 2 time champ. Pretty simple.

[The Gambler1981]

for the money he can earn from an odh, cotto, and canelo floyd will gladly go to 154. Id bet he'd go to 160 to fight Chavez jr.

Floyd does get the concept of being a prize fighter, IF JCC Jr. wasn't with Top Rank I might agree with that but Floyd doesn't want Arum to make money off him either, which is real clear also.

I am sure if he got an offer he couldn't refuse he might amend that last part however. I just don't think he has ever got such an offer if you catch my drift.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes, yes you have. It's funny however that you would support him fighting ginger, (while claiming ginger doesn't deserve the fight), then call me a hypocrite.

See my earlier response to Cigarillo. I don't support the ginger fight from a competitive standpoint. From a return on invetsment standpoint, I've made my position clear.

Martinez/floyd is a great fight. floyd/Canelo is an event. WHy? Because every fight fan I know wants to see floyd/martinez while every mexican and half of the west coast wants to see the red head kid fight money.

The difference is simple. You just refuse to come to terms with the fact that professional boxing at its highest level is more investment banking then sport.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What, look in the mirror & see you??

I've defended my position. Martinez cannot compete with Ward at 168, a weight he's never been.

But Floyd can compete with Martinez at 154, where's he's now a 2 time champ. Pretty simple.

Wtf?

So which is it? Just yesterday you posted that Martinez would beat the shyt out of Mayweather and that he was too big and too skilled for him.

[Califas]

People just wanna hurt Floyd. It's not fair and it's mean


Why y'all wanna see my homey get beat up by a natural middleweight?

You **** with Floyd, you ****ing with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You aren't on Floyd's payroll. Shut, the fuck up.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd does get the concept of being a prize fighter, IF JCC Jr. wasn't with Top Rank I might agree with that but Floyd doesn't want Arum to make money off him either, which is real clear also.

I am sure if he got an offer he couldn't refuse he might amend that last part however. I just don't think he has ever got such an offer if you catch my drift.

agree 100%. I'm sure if floyd was told the Cartel would kick in $50 mil cash he'd be in azteca getting his face bashed in by a 180 lb JCC. Especially if he starts to lose the $250k bets.