Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #171
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    A boxer fighting and beating the best and then moving onto the next best?

    WHAT A CONCEPT!
    agreed. only when floyd fights them they are suddenlty not the best anymore.

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      #172
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      Very true indeed. To defend Floyd, this logic seems incomprehensible.
      i responded to your thread. I wait for your your response.

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        #173
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        Very true indeed. To defend Floyd, this logic seems incomprehensible.
        So why give Martinez a pass about Ward~ Ward would clearly be his next big challenge, so why not get on him about going up and taking that risk.

        It is a tow-way street, you can't demand one guy challenge himself while givning a guy you like the past.

        You are the exact same as those you rail against~

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        • Bushbaby
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          #174
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          i responded to your thread. I wait for your your response.
          Serious question. Do you think that it's not possible for a boxing fan to want to see Floyd & Martinez fight & that maybe fans know that that is literally the most competitive fight that can be made in the sport??

          Or do you honestly believe Pacman/Floyd will be more competitive, or Floyd/ginger??

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          • Oxn
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            #175
            What people dont understand is that NO ONE wants to see Martinez/Ward

            Ward doesnt want the fight
            Martinez dont want the fight
            Boxing fans dont want the fight.

            ONLY Sergio haters and Floyd huggers want to see the fight so they can use it as an excuse as to why Floyd dont need to fight Sergio.

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              #176
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              So why give Martinez a pass about Ward~ Ward would clearly be his next big challenge, so why not get on him about going up and taking that risk.

              It is a tow-way street, you can't demand one guy challenge himself while givning a guy you like the past.

              You are the exact same as those you rail against~
              You have to understand his agenda. If sergio takes a fight for money, like Chavez, well he's ok. If floyd does it, well thats the just sacreligious. Bushbaby has been whining and complaining because guys he likes can't sell ****ing seats.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #177
                I don't think Floyd-Martinez is competitive at 154~ if it happens it happens

                I don't think Floyd-Manny is competitive at 147~ if it happens it happens

                I do think Floyd-Canelo would be real competitive~ if it happens it happens

                I do think Ward-Martinez could be competitive~ if Martinez is good enough but he likely isn't but I don't see why he couldn't give it a go
                Last edited by The Gambler1981; 09-19-2012, 02:19 PM.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  So why give Martinez a pass about Ward~ Ward would clearly be his next big challenge, so why not get on him about going up and taking that risk.

                  It is a tow-way street, you can't demand one guy challenge himself while givning a guy you like the past.

                  You are the exact same as those you rail against~
                  I don't see the challenge you speak of. Martinez has never been at 168. I don't think he can compete with Ward at 168. But to compare it to Floyd or Pacman weight hopping, I think Martinez going to 164 & beating Abraham is more compatible to what Floyd & Pacman do when they weight hop. Fight a champ, usually not the best a division has to offer.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    You have to understand his agenda. If sergio takes a fight for money, like Chavez, well he's ok. If floyd does it, well thats the just sacreligious. Bushbaby has been whining and complaining because guys he likes can't sell ****ing seats.
                    He is just a hypocrite who is wrong more often than he is right and of all the people who agree with him well if I put their boxing knowledge into a wet paper sack and would not be worried at all about the bottom falling out.

                    I am happy those sorts feel differently than me~

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Bushbaby
                      Serious question. Do you think that it's not possible for a boxing fan to want to see Floyd & Martinez fight & that maybe fans know that that is literally the most competitive fight that can be made in the sport??

                      Or do you honestly believe Pacman/Floyd will be more competitive, or Floyd/ginger??
                      Pac/Floyd at this point is pointless. Floyd/Ginger is interesting barring what happens between then and the fight also the biggest money making fight to be made. I said before I'd like to see Sergio/Floyd but neither man would get credit for the win tbh due to the weight issues. I really don't believe they would. Also to the point of the thread Floyd vs Sergio is the same as Sergio vs Ward except that Floyd already took that step to the level above where he was at where Sergio hasn't. Floyd has no business at 154 and has never weighed that even on fight night. Martinez has hit 168 lbs on fight night and that IMO actually makes him a bigger MW in comparison to floyd at WW.

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