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what is your argument jimmy?
lennox beat him because he had better offense than vitali has defense.
lennox beat him because he had better offense than vitali has defense.
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This is a Vitali Klitschko thread.. is it not? What are you doing here.. the discussion is about Vitali's merits & who can legitimately beat him.. I've more than made my case.. I give you a legitimate case for him being the toughest fighter to ever beat in a boxing ring when his physical health is intact.. it's YOUR job to prove i'm wrong & so far all of you haven't been able to thwart my claims because my claims about what he's done in his entire career is 100% evidence & based on facts...
Have I LIED about Vitali Klitschko's credentials.. have I MADE up anything that isn't true about what he's done in his fights? You all think i'm sugarcoating the body of evidence when i'm simply making light of it. I'm providing EVIDENCE & yOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN admit that at the very least it's circumstantial... you ALL PRACTICE avoidance by spinning it to his opposition as your sole salvation to discount all this body of evidence.. is nearly 20 heavyweight unprecedented career achievements NOT enough to sway you guys..... how can THESE 20 ACHIEVEMENTS BE ATTRIBUTED ENTIRELY to his opposition when he's REACHED the highest level of the sport....
THAT'S SIMPLY ABSURD.. if we took all of this to court & you presented that excuse filled resume bs & weak opposition feasting... you'd be LAUGHED OUT of the phocking courtroom because of all the OVERWHELMING Evidence that is being presented by yours truly... but on a boxing forum filled with haters & biased fans... the laugh is on me.. you're all right & i;m wrong despite i have more than sufficient evidence to convict him Of not being the best ever (as i never have stated this as that's just an opinion ) Most dominant IS AS good as a landslide.. simply put.. have you guys ever TOLD me once who has been more dominant than him without going to the weak opposition card? the answer is no...
IT'S BECAUSE you know he's been the most dominant... but have to take his opposition along for the ride so as to keep from admitting this one simple fact & yes it's FACT.. it's NOT OPINION when i present you with two handfuls of heavyweight records that he alone owns.. CALLING him a favorite against ANY BOXER that ever lived is such a stretch? Really guys... HOW is it a stretch WHEN he ALREADY HAS SIZE & strength advantages as well as reac OVER ABOUT 99% of all boxers in history...
ITS A FREAKIN' advantage EVEN if VITALI didn't have any fighting skills.... but he's got fighting skills to go along with it..... you can't even think about any fighter coming close to merely outboxing him..... so how can it actually be done? So when you guys say H2H he'd be a handful for everyone.. i take this as partial admittance on your part... it's admitting that what i'm stating is accurate but leaving a little leeway by Not STATING he'd be number one head to head when everything points to this,,, you all go prime LEWIS would handle him.. yet it's Vitali that would have been favored against Lewis in the rematch..
Not based on Lewis age but on the performance of Vitali... it's absurd to even state a prime LEWIS dominates Vitali WHEN THIS has never happened to Vitali before & HE DOMINATED Lewis sans cuts... Lennox Lewis was in there.. his fighting style is NOT going to change if we gave him his prime... He fights the same way regardless of the condition he's in & Vitali thoroughly outboxed & outclassed him but LL showed he could dig down deep & survived. Vitali WILL ALWAYS BEAT LENNOX TO THE PUNCH.. it's how he fights.. so not much is going to change except for the cuts & perhaps less toe to toe action & more caution by both fighters.Comment
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He was more schooled in tieing up Vitali & hitting him at close range....Vitali wasn't used to this type of infighting & repeatedly let Lennox get freebies with the free hand including that blow right at the end.. they were both tied up but Vitali failed to defend Lewis's free hand time & time again.. from a distance & squared up... it was a different fight with Vitali diminating most of the action..... so i do admit the D on the inside was very leaky.... it made the cut what it was & it kept Lewis in the fight for Vitali's lack of experience on the inside.
I wouldn't agree with that statement as both fighter's D that night was extremely lacking. Vitali landed many more punches that did heavy damage & Lennox landed big blows which eventually caused cuts.... LL was fortunate that his punches led to an ultimate stoppage while Vitali's punches weren't as eyecatching so to speak.... they were on the verge of causing a stoppage but he needed a little more time that he wasn't afforded to have.
LL STOOD for lady luck that night for sure!Comment
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It's ONLY legit if you were kicking his A$$$$ IN THE process of doing so.. it's NOT legit when your A$$$ FOR THE most part was handed to you
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The people in the bar I watched the fight in where all worried about Vitalis health after that 6th round with or without the cut the fight should have been stopped.
That cut may have actually saved Vitalis life.Comment
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Hey Jimmy what's you're argument for Vitali beating a PRIME Lennox Lewis? (eg Golota Version)
- Vitali wasn't able to force his Jab to dictate due to Lennox's height and size.
- Lewis at his worst was able to beat Klitschko
- I referenced to being ahead on the scorecards ala Chavez vs Taylor before Taylor was ahead on the scorecards before being stopped in the 12th Round.
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