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  • Jam Jars
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    #131
    Originally posted by jimmy1569
    Lol... you're pushing it.. son. Bruno was knocked down.. & STOPPED while the fight was commencing.. a ref legitimately stopped the bout. Did ANY of those things happen in the Klitschko fight? Class dismissed
    A doctor legitimately stopped the Klitschko bout. The doctor has as much power as the ref to stop the fight. Only a doctor is more qualified to make the judgement. LOL

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    • Jcsuper
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      #132
      look at 4min15 of this video:



      Lewis land a bodypunch, then a right hand to the head, Klitschko holds to save his life and manage to eat an uppercut a the end of the round. Klitschko then returns to his corner with his face decapitated.

      TKO 6

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        #133
        Originally posted by Jcsuper
        look at 4min15 of this video:



        Lewis land a bodypunch, then a right hand to the head, Klitschko holds to save his life and manage to eat an uppercut a the end of the round. Klitschko then returns to his corner with his face decapitated.

        TKO 6
        Vitali was just as tired as Lewis (maybe more so)



        Look at him stumbling around. LOL

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        • Jcsuper
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          #134
          Vitali was just as tired as Lewis (maybe more so)
          anybody objective could see that both men were dead tired and were probably happy the fight was ended. It was the last elite level heavyfight in history. The sad thing is people like Jimmy acting like Klitschko could have continued like a fresh rose and talking sh*/ like if he was dominating lewis, and also forgetting that Lewis was old and in bad shape

          and lol at your gif

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          • Daïa
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            #135
            Prime Vitali would give a competitive fight to all the greats of the past.
            I'm sure very few would choose him for a volontary defense.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Daïa
              Prime Vitali would give a competitive fight to all the greats of the past.
              I'm sure very few would choose him for a volontary defense.
              I totally agree with you, nobody has an easy time with Vitali. However I think Vitali would loose again a few of these greats from the past

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              • jimmy1569
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                #137
                Originally posted by Jcsuper
                "hOW MANY have either ko'ed him or taken him the distance... i guarantee you the percentage is much less than Klitschko's... All this proves is that Bruno's WAY of WINNING is more likely to be a KO than Klitschko's way. "

                Frank Bruno : 38 wins out of 40 by stoppage : 95 %
                43 fights out of 45 ended by a stoppage : 95,5%

                Klitschko : 41 wins out of 45 by stoppage : 91,1%
                43 fights out of 47 ended by a stoppage : 91,5%


                You say " All this proves is that Bruno's WAY of WINNING is more likely to be a KO than Klitschko's way. " Isnt that the point ? lol, you're proud that Vitali lossed are by stoppage ?


                Bruno is the goat, get over it
                Is that right... perhaps I UNDERESTIMATED BrUNO'S PENCHANT for getting his ASss$ ktfo... Overall KO% IS 80.8.. vITALI'S is 87.2 % (really 89.4% counting Briggs) & that's where it ENDS for your boy Bruno.. BRUNO is another Earnie Shavers... ko or be ko'ed.... glass jawed sluggers are a dime a dozen... Bruno is just the most proficient at it..... good job SON!

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Jcsuper
                  Ok Jimmy, I was trolling, Bruno su cks. I want to tell you cause I pity you and I don't think you would have understood I was trolling by yourself.


                  However, on a serious note, look at 4min15 of this video:



                  Lewis land a bodypunch, then a right hand to the head, Klitshcko holds to save his life and manage to get a uppercut a the end of the round. Klitshcko then returns to his corner with his face decapitated, the claim that if the fight had continued Vitali would have won is just total bull$*(/". Vitali would have been seriously injured, and he wasnt taking over at all.

                  Vitali fought one serious threat in his career, and he lost, and this threat was old and out of shape.
                  sON... you don't think i know you're trying to rile me up? I'm just playing along.. as for the video.. i've seen the fight 1000 times in slow motion & don't need to repeat myself.. my thoughts on the fight are well documented... your three minute video won't change my views.. I've taken the ending & conclusion of the fight & looked at it from both sides... Vitali's eye lid skin was gushing blood & he had facial cuts all over (we know).... Vitali was tieing LL up at the end to keep him from throwing followup shots right at the end..




                  momentum was indeed in Lewis advantage based ONLY on the last ten seconds of the bout when Vitali got hit on the side of the head on his blind side........ now LL was in the process of throwing the kitchen sink at Vitali to attempt to do the impossible & that is have a ref call the bout on a stoppage with Klitschko on the receiving end.. he couldn't do it.. shot his wad.... we have no idea how both come onto the 7th rd.. stamina wise..




                  ID' STILL favor Vitali even after all the abuse his face had received as LL was on the recieving end of nearly 60 more blows to the head... there was no second wind for him & there was no second wind for Vitali.. they were both about finished at the end of 6 rds... anything could've happened but one thing i guarantee EVERYBODY reading this & that is that Vitali would NOT have been physically stopped by Lewis because of NOT defending himself as is the case with a normal Tko STOPPAGE... at worst the bout would've been stopped on cuts while a doctor looks at the cut DURING the rd... More likely Lewis gets stopped in a LEGITIMATE fashion than the other way around as Lewis received MORE BLOWS TO THE head.. had been stopped twice before while Vitali was never stopped with blows ending a bout...





                  Vitali also REFUSED to be ko'ed that night no matter what Lewis threw at him.. so this pattern will have continued.... this is as honest & impartial as i can keep it..... it's 50/50 going into the 7th rd... nothing more nothing less & LL'S only way of winning was the way in which HE actually won while Vitali had more options...more odds to ko Lewis in a legit manner as his career has shown & at worst had an advantage if by miracle the fight went all 12 rds by winning a decision... it was a 50/50 in terms of who gets the w.. with VITALI having MORE ways of winning the bout than LENNOX who ONLY had the cuts (although the fight being stopped on cuts get highly more likely than not.
                  Last edited by jimmy1569; 09-21-2012, 12:27 AM.

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                  • jimmy1569
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    A doctor legitimately stopped the Klitschko bout. The doctor has as much power as the ref to stop the fight. Only a doctor is more qualified to make the judgement. LOL
                    A doctor is NOT in there watching the action..... let me ask you smart allics this. Why didn't the ref STOP this fight when Vitali was actually fighting & bleeding all over the place? I'll answer this for you.. it's because Vitali was holding his own & defending himself.. giving as good as he was getting despite the cut hindrance.


                    The way that it was stopped in between rds was just pathetic.. i would've preferred it done while they were fighting & I don't agree with LL being automatically given a W UNDER THE circumstances. Bout went 6 rds... both were on the verge of exhaustion going toe to toe for 6 brutal rds that felt like 15... that fight should've went to the scorecards. Vitali more than earned that right.. at worse a technical draw should've been awarded & an immediate rematch mandated.




                    . NOT giving LL too much time to think about it.. either vacate the belt or fight Vitali again.. as it turns out LL vacated the belt more than a yr later but had the excuse of retirement to fall back on.. Vitali was the ONE WHO SUFFERED all those cuts & lacerations.. yet he was MORE enthused to get back in the ring than Lewis was.. why would Klitschko want to put himself in harms way again & potentially get cut again by Lewis? Lewis didn't have any obstacles in the fight for him to think he couldn't come back better next time.. in shape or whathaveyou.. this time knowing how Klitschko rolls & make adjustments? Truth is he DID HAVE MENTAL OBSTACLES to get over & that is the nighmare of about 160 Klitschko blows to his head that HE WILL NEVER EVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • damuttz112
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                      #140
                      Vitali will retire not giving Charr a rematch. LMAO

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