Who could beat a prime Vitali?

[jimmy1569]

I'm talking to a bunch of singleminded & misinformed boxing fans... What does Golota have to do with Vitali Klitschko? Did Vitali get sparked like he did... are u phocking serious. Golota reaching Vitali with intentional low blows STILL couldn't carry Vitali's generic jock strap let alone Hanes ones.. please stop talking .. & stick to the gifs... you're more tolerable that way.

[jimmy1569]

I'm talking to a bunch of singleminded & misinformed boxing fans... What does Golota have to do with Vitali Klitschko? Did Vitali get sparked like he did... are u phocking serious. Golota reaching Vitali with intentional low blows STILL couldn't carry Vitali's generic jock strap let alone Hanes ones.. please stop talking .. & stick to the gifs... you're more tolerable that way.

Lewis is NO longer with us because of Vitali Klitschko's 156 blows to his head. Vitali's cuts are healed you morons.. LL didn't reapply for his boxing license.... long term damage is the END game... you idiots... geez.. i can't believe i'm even waisting my breath on you guys & for all other Klitschko fans who know i'm right but are afraid to speak up... keep on being intimidated &... go buy a pair on sale!!!!!!!!!!

[damuttz112]

Explain how Vitali beats a prime Lewis (Golota Version)?

[jimmy1569]

Explain how Vitali beats a prime Lewis (Golota Version)?

You still yapping about that.. I'd love to see Lennox try to spark out Vitali.. it'd be the end of him.... He tried that option in the outset of there actual fight & QUICKLY PHOCKING FOUND OUT THAT MICHAEL GRANT.... RAZOR RUDDOCK & ANDREW GOLOTA WEREN'T IN THE SAME ARENA.. he almost got ktfo trying to go after QUITSCHKO AS was the thinking.. Same exact thing happens.. Did GOLOTA NOT DO the same exact thing to Bowe in the second go round... It's you guys that think a different LL shows up & pretend it was someone else in his place that night.. Same exact fight develops... no one in this lifetime is sparking Vitali Klitschko so get that out of your head right now.

if cuts happen again.. then they happen again but please STOP fabricating that a prime Lewis has an easir time with VITALI kLITSCHKO when there's more ample proof that he wouldn't.... this is NO dream matchup.. moron... they were in the ring against each other... a different version of lewis.. how about we use the Vitali version back from retirement who's rarely lost a rd.. who's smarter.. surely if u want to use the best version of Lewis.. then i'll take a 37 38 yrold Klitschko who's seasoned & untouchable to destroy your prime version.. two can play that pretend game.. kapish!

[damuttz112]

Vitali Klitschko
Record: 45 Wins (41 knockouts, 4 decisions), 2 Losses, 0 Draws
Height: 6’7 1/2’’
Reach: 80’’
Notable Wins: Samuel Peter, Corrie Sanders, Chris Arreola

Fighting Style
Vitali Klitschko’s fighting style is as straight forward as you can get. Vitali uses his size and reach advantage to methodically break down his opponents and score mid-to-late round stoppages. Vitali is the prime example of a fighter being underestimated. Even though the general public would view Vitali Klitschko as “clumsy” or “goofy,” his fighting style is predicated on using a small amount of technical skills in order to put himself into a position to utilize his physical attributes as an advantage.

Strength: experience, ring generalship, Jab, punching power and stamina.
Underestimated Strengths: footwork, keeping proper distance and punching angles.
Weaknesses: overall speed, form (slouching over), hand position and exchanging.

Fighters that would defeat Vitali:

Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Joe Louis, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, Sonny Liston & Mike Tyson.

Retiring for 4 years + His losses against Byrd and Lewis in his prime hurts his legacy. A great fighter but is overshadowed by his younger brother; Wladimir Klitschko.

[jimmy1569]

Vitali Klitschko (by Nathan Nau)
Record: 45 Wins (41 knockouts, 4 decisions), 2 Losses, 0 Draws
Height: 6’7 1/2’’
Reach: 80’’
Notable Wins: Samuel Peter, Corrie Sanders, Chris Arreola

Fighting Style
Vitali Klitschko’s fighting style is as straight forward as you can get. Vitali uses his size and reach advantage to methodically break down his opponents and score mid-to-late round stoppages. Vitali is the prime example of a fighter being underestimated. Even though the general public would view Vitali Klitschko as “clumsy” or “goofy,” his fighting style is predicated on using a small amount of technical skills in order to put himself into a position to utilize his physical attributes as an advantage. Below is a break down of Vitali’s strengths and weaknesses:

Strength: experience, ring generalship, Jab, punching power and stamina
Underestimated Strengths: footwork, keeping proper distance and punching angles
Weaknesses: overall speed, form (slouching over), hand position and exchanging

This is not exactly a negative review so i don't understand why you're bringing it up... only the speed is subjective.. the rest.. (slouching over & hand position is an actual strength,, & NOT weaknesses.. if it works for him it's a strength... rarely anyone exchanges with him because they've already been disarmed to do so.. his idea of exchanging is giving you a dollar for every nickel & dime you throw at him.. it's not necessary for him to exchange 50 cents for 50 cents when he's able to do the ladder.. so how is this a weakness when it doesn't occur much for it to matter & when it does get hit.. he gives you payback in spades.. going toe to toe is only necessary when you'ra NOT capable of doing it the other way....

Strengths....what about his reflexes.. i supposed his ability to absorb a punch is not a strength either? HOW ABOUT SPINNING you around so he has you constantly off balance.. how about being able to throw punches while going backwards.....etc.. etc.

[damuttz112]

This is not exactly a negative review so i don't understand why you're bringing it up

What do this have to do with an analysis? Get out of your bubble.

... only the speed is subjective

It's not compare the fight films.

.. the rest.. (slouching over & hand position is an actual strength,, & NOT weaknesses.. if it works for him it's a strength... rarely anyone exchanges with him because they've already been disarmed to do so..

It became a weakness against Lewis (a tall fighter) because of his reach, Lewis was able to force a brawl due to his size.

his idea of exchanging is giving you a dollar for every nickel & dime you throw at him.. it's not necessary for him to exchange 50 cents for 50 cents when he's able to do the ladder.. so how is this a weakness when it doesn't occur much for it to matter & when it does get hit.. he gives you payback in spades.. going toe to toe is only necessary when you'ra NOT capable of doing it the other way....

Strengths....what about his reflexes.. i supposed his ability to absorb a punch is not a strength either? HOW ABOUT SPINNING you around so he has you constantly off balance.. how about being able to throw punches while going backwards.....etc.. etc.

Subjective
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How does Vitali beat a Prime Lewis? State your evidence.

[damuttz112]

In order to defeat Vitali, a fighter will have to utilize above average technical skills and have the heart to provide relentless pressure. Vitali is able to use footwork to keep his opponents at the end of his powerful punches and mitigate the scoring opportunities of fighters when they press forward by using effective, but underrated side stepping techniques. In order to consistently score against Vitali, a fighter will need the technical skills to close the gap and the strength to stop Vitali from side-stepping, clenching or pushing his opponents away. The aforementioned skill set could put a fighter within striking range to take advantage for Vitali’s habit to slouch forward, average hand speed and the fact that he is willing to exchange.

Outside of the most skilled heavyweights of all-time, such as Muhammad Ali, a fighter using this strategy will need a strong chin and big heart to endure the punishment that Vitali could unleash on a fighter with a plan to continuously apply pressure. No one can argue with the fact that Vitali does a good job keeping his distance, has long arms, punches from unusual angles, has a good chin and has a big heart. (Nathan Nau)

[Boxing Bob]

fellow poster, once again I will remind you that it is useless to use logic to argue with Jimmy 1569 as logic doesn't compute in his world as i pertains to Vitali. Instead just refer to him as the Owl, because the more light you shine on him the less he will see.

Seriously, this guy thinks he's right and the rest of the boxing world is wrong

[jimmy1569]

What do this have to do with an analysis? Get out of your bubble.


It's not compare the fight films.


It became a weakness against Lewis (a tall fighter) because of his reach, Lewis was able to force a brawl due to his size.





Subjective

How does Vitali beat a Prime Lewis? State your evidence.[/QUOTE]

First of all Lewis & him engaging in a brawl.... Vitali was holding his own & then some.. Lewis is an alltime great superheavy... not too many if any have that type of skill for his size to get Vitali off his gameplan so no shame in Vitali going blow for blow with Lennox.. Vitali used to be a kickboxer.. so he can hold his own if he had to.

As for the evidence.. 47 fights... including 6 rds vs said fighter in question. Simply put Vitali proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he can get his punches off more than Lewis.. COMPUBOX more than states this.. so i know he's going to be landing & throwing more punches... that is a 100% given.. if you can't admit this minute detail.. then you're just waisting my time.... as for the cut occuring again..



THIS IS NOT A GIVEN.. BECAUSE it;s a rare occurence.. we can even say it's happened once in a lifetime & mean it. I know that PRIME lennox has been sparked twice... Vitali has NEVER been sparked even in one of his bad nightmares.... so odds are in his favor.. there.. that he won't be knocked down... odds are in his favor that he can outbox Lewis because he's done it to him & everyone else who cared to step to HIM with no exceptions.. we do know LENNOX CAN CUT vITALI & WE DO KNOW Vitali can hurt Lennox... LL'S JAW is weaker than Vitali's yet time & time again we discount this to inflate a prime Lewis worth.. we also KNOW & this is the most important aspect that VITALI CAN take LL'S BEST PUNCH even in phocking dire straights.......


If I HAVEN'T MADE A CASE FOR VITALI WINNING... I'VESURE MADE A CASE FOR lennox NOT winning.... that's how i gauge this prime for prime matchaup... I BASE IT ON vITALI'S HISTORY.. i base it on Lennox''s HISTORY & MOST IMPORTANTLY i base it on there history in the ring for 18 battle infested minutes.