I've never seen such a talented prospect

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  • LeG00N
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    #31
    Prospect?


    Donaire knocks him out, Santa Cruz makes him quit, Mares out works him, Moreno pulls off a close fight and I go life and death with him in a street fight.

    I don't blame any of them for not wanting to fight a no name,boring ass fighter with 11 fights

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    • Mikel 45
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      #32
      He is incredible to watch. His defense is insane, his angles, footwork all perfect.

      He needs to have a bigger fanbase. Because i wanna pay to watch this guy on the main card

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        #33
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        I've never seen such a talented prospect get **** on quite like Rigondeaux. I guess its true that the better you become the more haters you'll have.
        I honestly sit almost hypnotized by how amazingly gifted he is, his footwork is a thing of a beauty.
        How can you deny such a talent?
        His speed, combinations, precision bodypunching, his power & accuracy. Foowork, defense. That is not a good prospect, that is a once in a lifetime OUTSTANDING brilliant, close to perfect technician.

        He fights a guy with over 300 amateur wins, 21-1 with a 70 odd % K.O ratio and wins just about every round, even scores a knockdown or was it two? Gets hit with one maybe two decent shots yet stays composed and pays back with interest and apparently this is him getting 'exposed' even his own damn fellow countryman are turning on him, like wow, what loyal fans you are.
        This is like when Mosley landed two bombs on Floyd ''OMFG Floyd nearly lost lollll, hes got a glass jaw''

        Now Leo Santa Cruz apparently whoops him lmfao! Leon Santa Cruz whoops Guillermo Rigondeaux? Are you absolutely insane?
        Hes not even the best prospect from Mexico in his damn weightclass for Christ sake.

        I wonder if when he spanks these guys if you'll jump on the bandwagon, d1ckriding whose hot at the time or if it'll be a case of ''Lmao hes a bum, hes shot'' etc

        Bookmark this thread because I am telling you right now there is not a fighter, not a single fighter south of 126 alive today that can beat Guillermo Rigondeaux!
        That includes Donaire, that wreckless Margarito wannabe who throws a million lovetaps per round and it also includes Nishioka & Mares.

        1 trillion points to whoever wants it, even odds that if Donaire ever tries his luck with Rigondeaux he gets savaged.
        He's good I think the people who down talk him are donaire fan boys mostly.

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          #34
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          11 pro fights and already beaten two former world champions. A world title in only his 8th pro outing.

          Corboda is a very awkward, big & tough southpaw who nobody has ever had an easy time with.
          Casey is a solid prospect, undefeated at the time & came in with a big K.O ratio.
          Ramos was a 20-0 world champion.
          Teon Kennedy has a massive freakishly long reach he uses very well & had never been down and arguably should of been undefeated.
          Marroquinn was 21-1 had a great amateur career defeating the likes of Gary Russell Jr & Adrien Broner, he too had a K.O ratio in excess of 70%

          He has only fought guys with winning records & holds the record for his opposition having the highest win-to-loss ratio of any fighter to ever live, beating Oscars record.

          How can you knock his resume? How could you ask for more than he has already done?
          where did you get that info cuz he fought some guys with heavy losses on their record.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Davis40
            where did you get that info cuz he fought some guys with heavy losses on their record.
            Win-Loss-Draw record of DLH's opponents (first 11 fights): 183-53-19
            Win-Loss-Draw record of Rigo's opponents (first 11 fights): 234-53-11

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            • CubanGuyNYC
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              #36
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              I've never seen such a talented prospect get **** on quite like Rigondeaux. I guess its true that the better you become the more haters you'll have...

              He fights a guy with over 300 amateur wins, 21-1 with a 70 odd % K.O ratio and wins just about every round, even scores a knockdown or was it two? Gets hit with one maybe two decent shots yet stays composed and pays back with interest and apparently this is him getting 'exposed' even his own damn fellow countryman are turning on him, like wow, what loyal fans you are.

              This is like when Mosley landed two bombs on Floyd ''OMFG Floyd nearly lost lollll, hes got a glass jaw''...
              I think you're going a little overboard when you say his countrymen are turning on Rigondeaux. (I don't know if you mean me, specifically, or as part of a group.) Does pointing out a potential weakness make one less of a fan? Are we to pretend Rigo's never been affected by a punch? That's a blind, fan-boy mentality, the hallmark of the sheep amongst us.

              I was a fan of Guillermo long before his pro debut, and, as long as he doesn't demonstrate an unconscionable moral shortcoming, or heinous personality flaw, I don't see that changing anytime soon. I'm happy that Rigo is finding a following beyond the Cuban community. Let's discuss his exploits as fans, not as "stans".

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #37
                Originally posted by New England
                he's not really a prospect. certainly not now.


                young kids who come up with talent who need to bring their boxing ability along are prospects

                rigondeaux is 31. he's not going to change much. he'll improve as he's exposed to better professionals, but not the way you'd see a 21 year old prospect "improve"


                rigondeaux is a very experienced boxer. he's gone through the rudiments of the sport for many decades now. you can tell he's been throwing that left hand since he was a 10 year old kid in cuba.


                prior to his performance against marroquin (where he looked to be very talented / schooled but ultimately flawed and did not show a great chin) he was one of the more highly ranked fighters on the bscene forums



                in my eyes he's never really gotten his style together. it almost looks like a 12 round boxing match bores him, or is some sort of game. he's almost not taking it seriously. he wastes a ton of time in there, where a great boxer makes sure to use every second of every round to his advantage and in a manner that will be detrimental to his opponent's gameplan


                he just looks for the perfect counterpunches. he can land them, but that's not a style that's going to lend itselff to long term success.



                he'll almost certainly go down as a "would have, should have" type fighter. he should have left the amateurs earlier. then he could have been a very good / great pro, the way he was a great in the amateurs.
                As usual, a solid post. The bolded remarks are particularly incisive.

                Rigondeaux would've been much better off turning pro years ago. Unfortunately, he didn't have the chance. So here we are. Guillermo's style is simply not fan-friendly. I enjoy watching him, but I'm a serious fan, and I have an obvious interest in seeing him excel. Practically everyone likes to see fighters that destroy or KO their opponents. In the pros, that's the name of the game.

                We must be fair, however. Rigo only has eleven professional fights. As incredibly talented as he is, "El Chacal" is still learning how things really work in the pros. The good news is that he possesses the tools to succeed. If concerns about his chin turn out to be unfounded, and he adjusts his style appropriately, he can have a nice run. I'm looking forward to it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by chav
                  I've been on the Rigondeaux bandwagon for some time. He is supremely talented but he has a flaw which makes him so much more exciting to watch. His flaw is his chin isnt as cast iron as the rest of his game as the rest of his game has hardly any flaws or weaknesses, and to add to that he has such exceptional timing and counter punching, that whilst his jaw isnt the worlds best, its going to be hard to hit him and not get punished for trying.

                  Im really high on the guy, but after the weekend if Donaire landed I do think he would finish Rigo and not let him off the hook....the question is can he land?

                  I want to watch it, so hopefully the fight gets made.
                  Great post. My favorite so far on this thread. Green K.

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                  • New England
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by davis828
                    Not buying that.

                    You just stated that Rigo looks for the perfect counterpunches; Donaire will provide those opportunities and that's just because his punches are wider than Rigo's.

                    Plus, you already know that Donaire was just naturally bigger than those little guys at '18, at '22 (and I had told my friend this), he wasn't just walking through anyone's punches. It showed on his face in the Vasquez Jr. fight. Rigo looks to be a natural '22, maybe even '26, his punches are concise and he's faster.

                    rigo is a very small guy. he's much smaller than donaire, mares, santa cruz, nishioka. at 126 he'd look tiny compared to salido, or a giant like mikey garcia, who walks around at 150+

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                    • Miburo
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                      #40
                      Never? Exact same thing happened (and is still ongoing) with Gamboa.

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